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  1. #21
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    chidarake's Avatar
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    Chida Rake
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    Omega
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    although i agree that who ever has intial hate is the mt the fight long barring them dying.

    that being said sometimes provoke has a place as if your ot you have no way of knowing if you are 2nd or 3rd on the list so popping provoke and waiting a sec before continuing your attacks will put you 2nd leaving the mt as the mt. this will ensure that if the mt dies the boss will auto switch to you instead of chasing some random person.

    admittedly chances are youll be 2nd or 3rd on the list anyways but you never can quite tell.

    as for any 2 tank raid scenario you wont be fighting over hate at all and youll only use provoke on intended tank swaps or if mt dies.
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  2. #22
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    Torunya's Avatar
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    Lindis Hrafnvandrar
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by chidarake View Post
    no way of knowing if you are 2nd or 3rd on the list so popping provoke and waiting a sec before continuing your attacks
    Rather than your method, I propose leaving provoke to the event the MT actually dies. Not before, to avoid coming across as a douche for provoking unnecessarily off the MT. ^^; As a tank you won't have any problem being the 2nd on the enmity list anyway, which you can also easily see by paying attention to the little bar on your job icon in the party list. Just in case anyone didn't know this.
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  3. #23
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    Calypso Celeste
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 60
    24 man raids have always been a pissing contest.
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  4. #24
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    Ignnis's Avatar
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    Ignis Inferne
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Did WoD and all three tanks fought over agro, Angra Mainu (spellinngggggg???) just kept spinning on the spot, moving up and down the arena and nuking people with its laser beam eye and making the dot juggling a pain in the butt.

    Honestly if its a raid with randys just say in alliance/party chat "Im MT, turn off your stances thx <3" because 90% of the time you just get a few mins of awkward standing in front of the boss rooms waiting for someone to do something.
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  5. #25
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    Comrade_uri's Avatar
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    Maximilien Dufort
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    Omega
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    Warrior Lv 100
    If I pull and someone tried to take the boss of me I do the following...

    ...use unchained, berserk, provoke and my combo and rip the boss off them. I will then call them on there actions and keep the boss on me. I will tell them if they wish to MT that's fine but they should call it and pull or I will simply rip the boss off them again and again.

    Manners cost nothing
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  6. #26
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    StouterTaru's Avatar
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    Stouter Taru
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamillion View Post
    24 man raids have always been a pissing contest.
    Mid-week they are, on the weekends you're lucky to have a tank that's willing to MT.
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  7. #27
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    Celestria Galatine
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    Diabolos
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    Mid-week they are, on the weekends you're lucky to have a tank that's willing to MT.
    Gah, if this is not the truth. I am pretty much a glorified dps on my DRK on the weekends. People can tank whatever they want, I'm just there to get drunk, yell BS when I get petrified, and have a good time.
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  8. #28
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    karateorangutang's Avatar
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    Celest Ru'milan
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    24 man raids have always been like this lol, in fact some people do it for the sheer fun of it.

    It's easy content that has a weekly that basically requires you to do it, so people spice it up for themselves in, sometimes selfish, other ways.
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  9. #29
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    I witnessed a very sad thing yesterday in WoD. We got to Cloud of Darkness and the two Paladins in the other alliances basically shuffled their feet and stared at each other so the Warrior in my party pulled. The Warrior ended up dying and the boss then switched to me. I was not a paladin, though. I was a monk. There's no way in hell a monk should be higher on threat than a paladin in level 50 content even if the paladin is in sword oath. All you can do is spam rage of halone! I have no idea what those chuckleheads were doing, but hitting the boss couldn't have been very high on their priority list.
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  10. #30
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    Hood Rat
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    Brynhildr
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    Mid-week they are, on the weekends you're lucky to have a tank that's willing to MT.
    On the weekends it's just warriors using their annoying berserk macros. And, when you call them out, they do nothing but spam them and the party won't vote to kick them. >.>
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