Tank Etiquette Between Tanks in Raids

[chidarake]

Come on now, this isn't even an issue. In 24-mans there are at least 3 tanks. So if the MT dies to the raid boss, you have 2 other OT's available. Provoke the boss, and start building your enmity combo. You shouldn't be advocating a method so fragile as provoking off of the MT while he is still alive just for the purpose of becoming 2nd on the enmity list, while also risk turning the boss around. Please don't do this. That's just bad tanking conduct.

tl:dr: Save Provoke for cases where MT dies/tank swaps. Not before.

i dont think he was advocating it at all just pointing out you dont know your position in 24man for certain.
heck i dont even advocate it i was just pointing out a potential reason that people may be doing it.

and like my previous post any decent tank will be most likely either be no2 or 3 in the list regardless of using provoke or not. however in dps stance you can not guarantee it without nerfing your damage for extra enmity.
as i can virtually guarantee that as my main BLM i wil be very high up that list if not no2 in 24 man raids due to most tanks and dps not really caring to much about the effort they put in.

plus surely you have seen any number of times bosses turning on dps as mt dies in all 24man content and then the boss just picking people off cus the other two tanks forgot they are suppose to tank after mt dies.

[Jamillion]

24 man raids have always been a pissing contest.

[StouterTaru]

24 man raids have always been a pissing contest.

Mid-week they are, on the weekends you're lucky to have a tank that's willing to MT.

[Soulbrandt]

Mid-week they are, on the weekends you're lucky to have a tank that's willing to MT.

Gah, if this is not the truth. I am pretty much a glorified dps on my DRK on the weekends. People can tank whatever they want, I'm just there to get drunk, yell BS when I get petrified, and have a good time.

[Jim_Berry]

Mid-week they are, on the weekends you're lucky to have a tank that's willing to MT.

I'm always willing to MT.

[Ignnis]

Did WoD and all three tanks fought over agro, Angra Mainu (spellinngggggg???) just kept spinning on the spot, moving up and down the arena and nuking people with its laser beam eye and making the dot juggling a pain in the butt.

Honestly if its a raid with randys just say in alliance/party chat "Im MT, turn off your stances thx <3" because 90% of the time you just get a few mins of awkward standing in front of the boss rooms waiting for someone to do something.

[Comrade_uri]

If I pull and someone tried to take the boss of me I do the following...

...use unchained, berserk, provoke and my combo and rip the boss off them. I will then call them on there actions and keep the boss on me. I will tell them if they wish to MT that's fine but they should call it and pull or I will simply rip the boss off them again and again.

Manners cost nothing

[karateorangutang]

24 man raids have always been like this lol, in fact some people do it for the sheer fun of it.

It's easy content that has a weekly that basically requires you to do it, so people spice it up for themselves in, sometimes selfish, other ways.

[Ashkendor]

I witnessed a very sad thing yesterday in WoD. We got to Cloud of Darkness and the two Paladins in the other alliances basically shuffled their feet and stared at each other so the Warrior in my party pulled. The Warrior ended up dying and the boss then switched to me. I was not a paladin, though. I was a monk. There's no way in hell a monk should be higher on threat than a paladin in level 50 content even if the paladin is in sword oath. All you can do is spam rage of halone! I have no idea what those chuckleheads were doing, but hitting the boss couldn't have been very high on their priority list.

[Jpec07]

I witnessed a very sad thing yesterday in WoD. We got to Cloud of Darkness and the two Paladins in the other alliances basically shuffled their feet and stared at each other so the Warrior in my party pulled. The Warrior ended up dying and the boss then switched to me. I was not a paladin, though. I was a monk. There's no way in hell a monk should be higher on threat than a paladin in level 50 content even if the paladin is in sword oath. All you can do is spam rage of halone! I have no idea what those chuckleheads were doing, but hitting the boss couldn't have been very high on their priority list.

*reads*

Uhh...huh.

*rereads*

...were they just auto-attacking and Stoneskinning? Maybe? Waiting for the cloud adds? Trying to be the ones to soak meteors? I just...

...

...and why tf didn't they provoke when Mr. Warriorpants died?

...

...oh crap, WoD is part of the next step of the HW relic. I'll need to dust off my 40-second 'splainin' macros (that I haven't had to use since I farmed the Demon fending set on my DRK). This is going to be fuuuun. 8|