How often do the different Races inter-mingle with each other?

[Berethos]

The ARC guild leader is xenophobic towards everyone, although he seems to refer to archery as something only Wildwood elezen do well and should only be taught to other wildwood.

Small correction - that charming fellow isn't the leader. The leader, Luciane, is much more welcoming (course, if I hadn't sat on this page for a while before responding, I would have seen that PArcher already mentioned this).

That being said, Silvairre seems to take it a step further than just race, as he seems to believe that only native Gridanian Wildwood should be taught (there are some lines that I'm pretty sure make that distinction) and even starts out by considering it a bad thing to teach my character...a non-native to Gridania Wildwood Elezen.

[PArcher]

Speaking of which, I wonder how they view the Seekers? Culturally, they're both hunters. Only difference is that Seekers aren't abundant in the Shroud

Probably no different. The Seekers may not be thieves like the Keepers in the Shroud can be, but they probably will push the Elementals' rules a bit, and the Gridanians really don't want the Elementals mad...

The other problem, they probably can't tell a Keeper from a Seeker, even standing next to each other...

[Confidence_Trick]

What about Senor Sabotender goosing the female customers at the Gold Saucer? What's going on there I wonder...

[Berethos]

I'm well aware of Eorzea frowning upon interracial coupling a bit despite being a more open-minded place, but from the various NPCs I've found like the on at Limsa Lominsa near Aftcastle where a Miqo'te and Hyur are "together"... not in the romantic sense really... and then there's the Aleport Hyur and Roe girl which I can NOT find though someone mentioned and got me thinking.

Found the Hyur and Roe in Aleport - they are along the top path area being yelled at by their captain. You have to walk near the Miqo'te conversing with another nearby to get the context for why he's threatening to throw them in the brig...namely that it was probably more their choice of location than their fraternization.

Which feels like it fits - military personnel ending up closer (both camaraderie and in other ways) due to shared life experiences trumping race, basically.

There is that Lalafell pervert that's touching the butt of a miqo'te worker in Aleport.

I tried to find the mischievous potato doing that and actually didn't see anything matching that description.

[Alisa180]

In short, I have no reason to believe that the whole angle of 'adventurers are more tolerant' is little more than an excuse to bury racism until it's time to try and make Garlemald's or Ishgard's nastier elements look even worse.

Adventurers can't really afford not to be tolerant. As someone mentioned earlier, they take jobs from a variety of people. Refusing to take gil from certain types because of rascism could keep them from putting food on the table. Not to mention showing disdain for clients can keep them from getting hired, with similiar results.

But there's also the fact their job often lands them in multi-racial parties and groups for dungeons, raids, and other battles. At that point, intolerance could not only cost them money, but also their lives. After all, rascism often comes with a degree of mistrust, and you need to be able to trust your party with your life if you want any chance in hell of surviving, much less succeeding.

Put these two factors together, and even the most rascist person to join the Adventurer's Guild will have to swallow their prejudice at some point or another. Those that don't will cease being adventurers...One way or another.

[VirusChris]

Found the Hyur and Roe in Aleport - they are along the top path area being yelled at by their captain. You have to walk near the Miqo'te conversing with another nearby to get the context for why he's threatening to throw them in the brig...namely that it was probably more their choice of location than their fraternization.

Which feels like it fits - military personnel ending up closer (both camaraderie and in other ways) due to shared life experiences trumping race, basically.

Aha! I thought it was them, but they didn't say anything and I was wondering if they were or not the ones and nothing pointed out and I even walked near the Miqo'te but no dialogue box popped up.

I really wish you can just trigger their dialogue instead of waiting for them to speak at times and when it looks like nothing will happen at all.



*Sigh*... How I wish my character could date Y'shtola, Hilda, Ysayle, or Yugiri at one point in the game. They really are remarking character with intriguing personalities.

Now going with Hilda... do Adventurers often have kids with each other? I really hope and like Yoshi-P expands this in upcoming patches to see hybrid children of Adventurers wandering around somewhere. Reminds of another MMO I played, which was Free to Play.

It's called LaTale and the main heroine NPC of the game's story, Iris, who the player is searching for that's gone missing that she was born a Derr offspring between a Human and Derr (not sure which parent was which race though I suspect the husband was the human and the mom the Derr) yet it was always told that any offspring between a Derr and a Human would end up a Human but Iris ended up mysterious a Derr child instead.

Though we're never told how many couples between those two were so the numbers might've been low and like how you get either a boy or a girl there's a 50% chance if could be a Human or not. Well seeing as FFXIV Lore mentions the child will always be the same as the mother.

[Lauront]

Given the racial diversity in the cities, im actually surprised that we don't see it more often. Though the likely reason is that the races are conditioned to be more attracted to their own race. Races with similar physiology makes sense (like in hilda case), but I don't want to imagine a roegadyn and a lalafell doing the dirty (shudder)

Also, we have specific lore regarding the mating patterns of several races and sub races, and they are vastly different (just looking at sun and moon miqote shows differences), it might be these mating differences that makes interracial bonds difficult

Or they just have a biologically inherited in-group preference. *Shrugs* Makes sense to me that they would have, as opposed to it simply being conditioning. I suspect it's quite rare, on the whole, to interbreed.

It's supposedly pretty rare and frowned upon by many within Eorzea but that is very rarely shown to be the case within the game itself. I have my suspicions as to why - that it's to appease the delicate sensibilities of those who would freak out if an NPC reacted negatively to their catgirl - but it's a real shame that a setting that likes to present itself as being 'gritty' only ever shows such things as being the domain of antagonists.

In short, I have no reason to believe that the whole angle of 'adventurers are more tolerant' is little more than an excuse to bury racism until it's time to try and make Garlemald's or Ishgard's nastier elements look even worse.

It's a real shame that the protagonists in this game are very modern in their morality. I suppose that's why I, personally, find them so boring. Imagine the tension if, for example, Aymeric wasn't all that keen on outsiders but swallowed his pride for the greater good of his people? Instead, he's without any flaw - and every Ishgardian who expresses contempt towards non-Ishgardians is pushed as a villain/antagonist. Yawn.

Yup, certainly agree on the above.

[CyrusArjuna]

The treatment of the different races is kinda odd if there's supposed to be tension. XI handled racial tensions better. Non-Elvaan in San d'Oria? You'd be looked down on. Same with the Galka in Bastok - they were treated as nothing more than disposable labor forces. The Mithra and Tarutaru seemed to get along pretty well though. I always figured that Eorzea was a melting pot and that the differing races had gotten acclimated to each other.

And I just noticed that both games had a prevalent female human/elf hybrid.

[Berethos]

It's supposedly pretty rare and frowned upon by many within Eorzea but that is very rarely shown to be the case within the game itself. I have my suspicions as to why

In other words, you've twisted the possible motivation behind the tolerance of adventurers to fit your own conspiracy theory. Mmkay.

Look, not everything is a bid to make Garlemald look bad.

[Theodric]

In other words, you've twisted the possible motivation behind the tolerance of adventurers to fit your own conspiracy theory. Mmkay.

Look, not everything is a bid to make Garlemald look bad.

Nice try, but no - that's not the case at all. I just think it's a shame that there's no real racism displayed in-game by the protagonists. I find politically correct protagonists dull and tiresome. They don't all need to be edgy anti-heroes either, of course, but some variety would be pretty neat. I want more heroes with flaws that fit the setting. Not heroes who are 'too cocky' or 'overestimate their abilities but somehow prevail against all odds anyway'.

I just feel like the whole 'adventurers are more tolerant' thing is just an excuse to avoid touching on racism at all unless it's to add a stereotypical bad trait to an established antagonist.

I mean, there's a lot of lore hidden away that isn't showcased. Ul'dah screwed over the Beast Races and had them exiled from the city. It's barely mentioned in-game. Gridania in 1.0 was a lot more xenophobic...but again, it isn't really showcased in-game to the same extent.