How often do the different Races inter-mingle with each other?

[Ehra]

Wineport has a Miqo'te and Hyur couple sitting on a bench together. There's a bitter Miqo'te woman standing across from them talking about how sick she is of seeing them being lovey dovey all the time.

[Belhi]

They make a point that both Gridania and Ishgard have become more open in recent years, particularly due to necessity. The need for adventurers forced Gridanians to accept outsiders into the Shroud and after a while all but the most hard core have become less standoffish. This would be particularly prevalent since the leadership has been driving a more open moderate cultural viewpoint. Its not like everyone in those places are going to be racist. In Ishgard its still pretty apparent but Ishgard has been facing a hell of a lot of cultural upheaval lately and we have seen people swing in both more conservative and more progressive viewpoints.

[Berethos]

It was a description of exactly what it appeared like you were doing.

Given that you do have a tendency to complain about Garlean portrayal (you're prob their biggest fan...I've seen the pictures on MMO-C), you'll have to forgive me for taking what looks like an insult related to why they are portrayed that way (which also happense to be a common actual insult, which is blaming on others because "they are the ones with a problem") at face value.

[Ehra]

Maybe the fact that this thread couldn't make it two whole pages before devolving into into a tone argument is evidence for why the community couldn't handle a nuanced, realistic portrayal of video game racism.

[Theodric]

Maybe the fact that this thread couldn't make it two whole pages before devolving into into a tone argument is evidence for why the community couldn't handle a nuanced, realistic portrayal of video game racism.

Heh heh heh heh!

[Hinoto-no-Ryuji]

Regarding racism and its whitewashing in the game:

I don't think it's entirely innocent of it, but I also think you're projecting more "grit" onto the setting than there is, Theodric. You're taking some morally dubious aspects and assuming other morally dubious aspects must then exist as well, when in reality, it's what's on the screen that matters. Our protagonists not being xenophobic isn't unrealistic or avoiding issues for the sake of being "PC" - it's what makes them our protagonists, especially since they're surrounded by less forward-thinking individuals. And, considering that all of the city states have a bit of an "open-minded-leaders-versus-morally-dubious-status-quo" thing going on, claiming that that's betraying the setting somehow is ignoring that it's always been the setting.

Honestly? Your worst fears have been realized from the first. Final Fantasy XIV already adheres to modern sensibilities and morality, and always has.

[Theodric]

I should elaborate:

By 'grit' I'm referring to the fact that Eorzea is a very dangerous, unpleasant place for people to live. There's the inequality in both wealth and social status to consider, supposed xenophobia and racism (something played down significantly from 1.0 - 2.0 and beyond), various horrible monsters prowling the wilds, necromancy, slavery, banditry, the risk of invasion/conquest, the Calamity and it's aftermath, political intrigue, hypocrisy of world leaders, Primals/Eikons being summoned repeatedly, Tempering and...the list goes on.

[VirusChris]

Where do my topic go wrong? ^_^;

I originally made this to discuss about interracial romance, not debates but then again I do tend to go off-topic when I start a conversations sometimes and becomes something else so it happens. Well it's nice people get to share their thoughts with each other and learn more about each other and the game we play. Though I do like to see people being more civil with each other and calmly explain to each others' views and opinions with a bit more optimism.

And to Theodric, I do not mind your posts in fact I find them educational as you try to expand more on the lore of Garlemaid and I'm thankful for it. I, too, made a small joke once from a fanfic when reading about the MC and his wonderful massages in a way and might help relax one of the females in the story (who's a tad older than he is) and to make her confident again and someone took the joke WAY too seriously or was so offense by it they insulted, ridicule for my insensitive, and my "disgusting" humor and I was going like... what did I say that was so offense? Well taking a step back and see from another angle it does seem to be in poor taste, but for those who read that story would understand what I was going for though I should've worded the joke better. Though that people also got scolded and I didn't get as much heat, but still I felt uncomfortable about it though I choose to forget about it and not worry.

You'll run into people like that from time to time. Just be yourself (though try to be respectable as well... no need to start a fight) and enjoy life one day at a time.

Anyway nothing derailing let's go back on topic.


So anyone spotted more interracial couples via Quests and Lore? I like to see what other races mingle with... so far (though Au Ra not counting as they're new) Roe seem to be the race that's less likely to get with other races (aside from Hyur and Miqo'te... I have yet to see a Roegadyn and Lalafell coupling outside of players marrying each other).

[VirusChris]

^I know which Lalafell that is, but I believe it was from a Questline where it mentions he was touching her butt than outright showing it and the NPCs for them disappear or he goes back to Moraby Drydocks in LLN.

[myahele]

There is Hunberct Longhaft and his 2 female miqo'te lovers. They're FATE in Highbridge, but it's also further expanded upon in the Moogle quest "Stroking the haft"