Anima Weapons. Putting things into perspective.

[Kaurie]

I actually had all the numbers in my post originally, then edited them out. :P



Level 60 roulette average 146, so close enough on that. I don't know about other data centers but, since the introduction of the Feast, Frontline roulette queues on Primal are at least an hour, if they pop at all, so I skipped it when doing my math.

I am on Primal, but I skip frontlines - this is made up pretty easily by the fact I do hunts. People could get esos via Feast too if they wanted.

Void Ark is 50 and Midas is 20 per floor.

Ah thanks for the corrections

The main point is, it's very easy and quick to get with little to no grinding - and can be obtained in 8 days quite easily.

All that said, my point was more that I'd be surprised if most people are doing expert, level 60, level 50, leveling, and trial roulette every single day. This reddit thread certainly suggests they're not.

If you assume a fairly quick 20 minutes per run for the dungeons, that's almost an hour and a half just in the instances. It's likely longer than that, and if you're a DPS you can add queue times on top of it. A lot of the people in that thread are saying they only play for a few hours a night, so that would essentially be almost the entirety of their play time.

That is fair, I normally skip roulettes but will be doing them. So in that sense, you are right - it's not what I would be doing anyway. I more meant that it's not this odd thing, like running Alex 1 200x. It's just your basic roulettes to speed it up, or your basic activities to get it.

20 minutes per run I think is a good average. I'd say:
50 roulette = 16 minutes
60 roulette = 15 minutes
leveling roulette = 30 minutes
expert roulette = 20 minutes
Trial roulette = 10 minutes

These estimates are based off what I usually encounter, and I often encounter bad DPS - it's made up by me DPSing a lot as a SCH though. As you said, it's 1.5 hours in instances - but that doesn't sound odd to me. This game has virtually no content outside of instances - for me I do hunts/beast tribes, but that doesn't take long.

I think that's where we differ. I'd consider running all five roulettes every day to be grinding. Not very intense grinding, but it's certainly not something I'd choose to do on its own merits.

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I guess I only consider it a grind if you do the same thing over and over and over. For example, running Alex 1 200x - killing the same mob over and over - running the same trial over and over. Roulettes give you a different dungeon, so you'd be doing 1.5 hours of varied content a total of 8x.