Anima Weapons. Putting things into perspective.

[Kaurie]

It can certainly be done in one week, but I'm not sure that it really matches that last comment.

esoterics:

Expert = 60 + 80 = 140
60 = 100 + 40 (ranges between 30-60 iirc, so averaged 40) = 140
50 = 120
Leveling = 100
Trial = 60
Frontline = 50

That's 140 + 140 + 120 + 60 + 100 + 50 = 610 per day

Void Ark = 50 esoterics
Midas = 20, cannot remember at work. = 80 minimum per week, tho likely on average you'll run each floor twice (4 drops, 8 people) - so 160 per week

That's 610 * 7 + 50 + 160 per week = 4480 = 2.5 pieces

Then comes week two, on that tuesday you do your roulettes for 610 + your void ark + 50 plus your midas + 160 = anotehr 820 to finish off your last half + your CT runs. So boom, you've got it in 8 days.

Once you take the esoterics from two Void Ark and Midas clears into account, it requires just over nine days of doing every roulette, every day, on a level 60 job (since you won't get the esoterics from the level 50, leveling, or trial roulettes if you do them on a job that's not level 60).

I don't know for how many people that's "daily/weekly stuff they're doing anyway". It's certainly not my normal routine.

You're doing the stuff you're doing anyway, you just now are doing it on your main for 1 week instead of leveling your alts.

[Ibi]

I actually had all the numbers in my post originally, then edited them out. :P

esoterics:

Expert = 60 + 80 = 140
60 = 100 + 40 (ranges between 30-60 iirc, so averaged 40) = 140
50 = 120
Leveling = 100
Trial = 60
Frontline = 50

That's 140 + 140 + 120 + 60 + 100 + 50 = 610 per day

Level 60 roulette average 146, so close enough on that. I don't know about other data centers but, since the introduction of the Feast, Frontline roulette queues on Primal are at least an hour, if they pop at all, so I skipped it when doing my math.

Void Ark = 40 esoterics
Midas = 20 or 30, cannot remember at work. = 80-120 minimum per week, tho likely on average you'll run each floor twice (4 drops, 8 people) - so 160-240 per week

Void Ark is 50 and Midas is 20 per floor.

That's 610 * 7 + 40 + 200 per week = 4510 = 2.5 pieces

Skipping Frontlines gives us 566 per day, for 3962 per week. Adding the raids brings that to 4172.

Then comes week two, on that tuesday you do your roulettes for 610 + your void ark + 40 plus your midas + 200 = anotehr 850 to finish off your last half + your CT runs. So boom, you've got it in 8 days.

Adding the second week's raids brings it to 4382, leaving 1018 remaining. Two more days of roulettes would get you there.

You're doing the stuff you're doing anyway, you just now are doing it on your main for 1 week instead of leveling your alts.

All that said, my point was more that I'd be surprised if most people are doing expert, level 60, level 50, leveling, and trial roulette every single day. This reddit thread certainly suggests they're not.

If you assume a fairly quick 20 minutes per run for the dungeons, that's almost an hour and a half just in the instances. It's likely longer than that, and if you're a DPS you can add queue times on top of it. A lot of the people in that thread are saying they only play for a few hours a night, so that would essentially be almost the entirety of their play time.

[Rawrz]

The 210 relic did get nerfed in a sense. The crafted items are no longer specialist locked since 3.2.

[Berethos]

The 210 relic did get nerfed in a sense. The crafted items are no longer specialist locked since 3.2.

Revisiting this - for both those who haven't finished, and those who have (and/or have multiple or are working on multiple now), what is your experience with the crafting side of it? A lot of the discussion has been about the tokens in general, or the overall process in general terms, but this particular part of that step seems like it could have the biggest variance and I'm curious what everyone's experiences with it so far are?

[Kaurie]

Revisiting this - for both those who haven't finished, and those who have (and/or have multiple or are working on multiple now), what is your experience with the crafting side of it? A lot of the discussion has been about the tokens in general, or the overall process in general terms, but this particular part of that step seems like it could have the biggest variance and I'm curious what everyone's experiences with it so far are?

My experience is that it is rather easy and easily the worst part of it from a design perspective. It is the only aspect of it that actually infuriates me, as opposed to just frustrates me.

[LaylaTsarra]

Revisiting this - for both those who haven't finished, and those who have (and/or have multiple or are working on multiple now), what is your experience with the crafting side of it?

I had someone I know make them. Wasn't cheap (although well below marketboard prices) because I didn't provide mats but then again I have no trouble making money with my gatherers fully leveled and in red scrip gear. I've had 3 sets made with 3 Anima's and I'd have another if the eso tomes weren't needed elsewhere. It does appear that prices haven't moderated that much with the loss of specialization. Perhaps by the time I do my bow they will have.

I did my relics by doing all the roulettes each day, beast tribes and hunts. I had/have a number of Zeta's so I didn't need to farm crystals which I might do on an alt cause she has 13/13/4/4 unidentified items and that's just from doing dailies with her. I have nothing else to do with her tomes other that possibly buy tome items to sell. I prefer at the moment at least to get the relic items when I can. I grabbed the towers quest this morning cause the aether oils are so easy to get and that stage is a given if you're not in a rush. I could use the music from those venue's as well.

[WingsOfAzrael]

Revisiting this - for both those who haven't finished, and those who have (and/or have multiple or are working on multiple now), what is your experience with the crafting side of it? A lot of the discussion has been about the tokens in general, or the overall process in general terms, but this particular part of that step seems like it could have the biggest variance and I'm curious what everyone's experiences with it so far are?

wasn't cheap but then again i bought some of it straight off the mb

[Ashkendor]

Revisiting this - for both those who haven't finished, and those who have (and/or have multiple or are working on multiple now), what is your experience with the crafting side of it? A lot of the discussion has been about the tokens in general, or the overall process in general terms, but this particular part of that step seems like it could have the biggest variance and I'm curious what everyone's experiences with it so far are?

My experience with the crafting side initially was trading back and forth between several friends/acquaintances. I had ARM/BSM/WVR so I could make fletchings for the arrows and squares for the mirrors, but couldn't make the straps to make my francescas and couldn't do anything with kingcakes. I found other people for those specialties and either had them craft for my mats + tip or traded crafts - I'd craft them 4 squares for themselves if they'd turn mine into mirrors, etc. Now that they aren't specialist locked I make all of my own, and actually frequently make extra relic items to list to the market.

I help FC members that don't have gatherers leveled in exchange for them helping me go into diadem and attune to air currents (and in the case of mining/botany, baiting mobs away from nodes).

[KaijinRhada]

Revisiting this - for both those who haven't finished, and those who have (and/or have multiple or are working on multiple now), what is your experience with the crafting side of it? A lot of the discussion has been about the tokens in general, or the overall process in general terms, but this particular part of that step seems like it could have the biggest variance and I'm curious what everyone's experiences with it so far are?

I'm taking my time with it. I'm well aware that I'm probably poor with about 20 million to my name, but I'm working on earning more gil, and leveling crafting and gathering. I'm not super social, so I do what I can on my own, given that crafting and gathering in this game is very much not my cup of tea. The crafting part of the relic would be my least favourite, but only because I'm still in the process of understanding gathering and crafting (specifically the higher level stuff), and I'm prone to punishing myself in silence, because talking to people is scary for me even for crafting (silly, I know, but I'm not very social). QwQ

[Whiteroom]

Revisiting this - for both those who haven't finished, and those who have (and/or have multiple or are working on multiple now), what is your experience with the crafting side of it? A lot of the discussion has been about the tokens in general, or the overall process in general terms, but this particular part of that step seems like it could have the biggest variance and I'm curious what everyone's experiences with it so far are?

I just found crafters on pf mostly and bought 4 at a time. was expensive, but got much cheaper.