Anima Weapons. Putting things into perspective.

[Kaurie]

outside of savage name one piece of content that can't be beaten with a esoteric weapon? I'll wait...... Yes, eso is the easiest but weakest option but should also be the first wpn you pick up once you hit lvl 60, its still a valid weapon.

I mean if we want to exclude content, we can just say all the weapons are valid. let's include law, poetics, soldiery, shiva, etc. etc.. I mean they can do some content.

I can even do the current expert roulettes with an i90 weapon if I wanted - and succeed.

EDIT: I wouldnt be surprise if in 3.3 the next warring triad weapon is ilvl 230, then everyone will be saying "ah man, the lore weapons is crap. Totally not worth it bro, primal weapon is easier"

Yes, every patch they release new ways to obtain the current/past ilvl weapon either faster or easier and/or add higher ilvl weapons that is the new one to get. That is how they've been doing it for years and is the nature of vertical progression.

EDIT: I wouldn't be surprised if in the next patch they added more content and possibly 2 dungeons

[Ibi]

Ikr, may as well count the Doman weapns.

I mean if we want to exclude content, we can just say all the weapons are valid. let's include law, poetics, soldiery, shiva, etc. etc.. I mean they can do some content.

I can even do the current expert roulettes with an i90 weapon if I wanted - and succeed.

For someone who can't clear or hasn't yet cleared Sephirot Extreme or invested the necessary time to complete a relic (which is a substantial portion of the player base), the esoterics weapon is (until at least next week) their best available option. The same is not true of the Law, Poetics, etc. weapons.

[Mindy_Macready]

EDIT: I wouldnt be surprise if in 3.3 the next warring triad weapon is ilvl 230, then everyone will be saying "ah man, the lore weapons is crap. Totally not worth it bro, primal weapon is easier"

Maybe if the lore weapon required 20000+ esoterics and law your analogy would actually make sense.

[Whiteroom]

outside of savage name one piece of content that can't be beaten with a esoteric weapon? I'll wait...... Yes, eso is the easiest but weakest option but should also be the first wpn you pick up once you hit lvl 60, its still a valid weapon.

EDIT: I wouldnt be surprise if in 3.3 the next warring triad weapon is ilvl 230, then everyone will be saying "ah man, the lore weapons is crap. Totally not worth it bro, primal weapon is easier"

It doesn't matter what can and can't be beat with it, it is a previous tier weapon, you don't put it on the same level as the new version of it. That is the Lore weapons place.

Also next triad will be at least 235.

[Ebonwings]

lol I haven't even finish part 3 yet xD only have 56/80 so far.... been slacking off on relic since the release date...

[Kaurie]

@Ibi and @Whocareswhatmynameis

I accept your premise and I guess I misunderstood and figured you meant the current tier of weapons - and for a weapon to work towards.


In regards to the main topic - I think that this stage of the relic is great and the last one sucks.

[Ibi]

@Ibi and @Whocareswhatmynameis

I accept your premise and I guess I misunderstood and figured you meant the current tier of weapons - and for a weapon to work towards.


In regards to the main topic - I think that this stage of the relic is great and the last one sucks.

Agreed all around.

[AngelicSence]

I don't see grinding as an issue, I know it's extreme and hard... but, the real problem is what we get in return. Yes, you can't upgrade tome weapons, only once. But by the time people finish on relic weapon, there will be another tome weapon which is easily acquired and superior to current relic. To be honest, relic suppose to be unique and desirable... that's what developers said themselves. We should be able to customize it somehow.. or give it proc ability based on job. BLM for example: 10% chance on offensive cast, you gain 50 INT for 10 seconds etc.

[Ashkendor]

I know it's extreme and hard...

It's not hard. Savage is hard. Relic is easy but time consuming.

[Alexftw]

I don't see grinding as an issue, I know it's extreme and hard... but, the real problem is what we get in return. Yes, you can't upgrade tome weapons, only once. But by the time people finish on relic weapon, there will be another tome weapon which is easily acquired and superior to current relic. To be honest, relic suppose to be unique and desirable... that's what developers said themselves. We should be able to customize it somehow.. or give it proc ability based on job. BLM for example: 10% chance on offensive cast, you gain 50 INT for 10 seconds etc.

That would make blm staff not useless like atm.