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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Because it would go over about as well as running a minimum ilvl ANYTHING.

    In fact ill do it tonight and let you know how it went.
    You'll do what tonight? Add-ons are not in the game.

    However, if you wanted to actually study, you could randomly choose a large number of sample times to put up a PF and do half of them posting "learning party Seph EX, must have watched a video" and "Learning party seph ex, blind run no video". After you have a sample of ~100 of that, you could give a decent outcome of the differences.

    All of that said, if the majority of players would want you to have the addon to join their party, then the majority of players would want the add-on and it's something that the dev team should support for that reason alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    You'll do what tonight? Add-ons are not in the game.

    However, if you wanted to actually study, you could randomly choose a large number of sample times to put up a PF and do half of them posting "learning party Seph EX, must have watched a video" and "Learning party seph ex, blind run no video". After you have a sample of ~100 of that, you could give a decent outcome of the differences.

    All of that said, if the majority of players would want you to have the addon to join their party, then the majority of players would want the add-on and it's something that the dev team should support for that reason alone.
    I was going to apologize, but tbh, I just don't care anymore. Nothing matters, does it!? Its just another thing I'll have to get used to to enjoy a theme park.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I was going to apologize, but tbh, I just don't care anymore. Nothing matters, does it!? Its just another thing I'll have to get used to to enjoy a theme park.
    Apologize for what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Apologize for what?
    I don't want a mess of addons, and as complicated as the game can be at times, add ons taking me through every part of the fight would feel even worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I don't want a mess of addons, and as complicated as the game can be at times, add ons taking me through every part of the fight would feel even worse.
    I still am confused about what you were going to apologize for 0.0

    However, that's a fine opinion for sure. I really miss addons personally. I loved that Wildstar, for example, fully embraced addons. It's too bad it failed in many other aspects.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    I used to be excited for live letters but it's been a while since they've felt anything but a big joke on their playerbase. Every question gets the same vague answer about limitations or lack of time/resources.
    I agree. I feel that they should just not do the live letters if this is the sort of thing we get. This letter seems to be getting a lot of praise for giving so much info - yet I feel we got very little to nothing. One of the drawing features of this game was that the dev team listens to its players, but I feel that it was simply an illusion that we all fell for.
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    Last edited by Kaurie; 03-29-2016 at 07:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I don't want a mess of addons, and as complicated as the game can be at times, add ons taking me through every part of the fight would feel even worse.
    Don't use them then, i won't even start the discussion that addons aren't only the DBM type, thing is atm, we don't even have a choice on what to use or how to customize our game, that is what we're asking, not a FFXIV DBM mod, that everybody needs to use, to streamline the fights.
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    Many things from the latest liveletter keeps me exciting (new Void Arc looks gorgeous, new grand company rank and gauß-barell invisible) but some aspects arent clearly answered yet (like inventory space, new housing area or PSO2 cross over event).

    The worst part was actually about Add-Ons. If they really plan to implement the FFXIV-counterpart of WoW-Addons or something, it would be a bad idea.

    Dont get me wrong. Some apps/add-ons can help, such as DPS-meters during raids, Hunt-Mob-Radars for Hunting or just the eorzea-clock for gathering. But it can also give other players a disadvantage, like early pulls in huntings or kicking players because of low damage. Thats why those add-ons arent really allowed by SE.

    In my opinion, the game should be not played with Add-Ons. This is NOT WoW! FFXIV should be challenging because of having no add-ons. If you want to heal, you do it in old fashioned way without any healer-add-ons. If you want to clear T5, you have to keep an eye on Twintania all the time. Add-ons can make the game easier, but thats what I m afraid about it: those could make it too easy.

    SAY NO TO ADD-ONS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
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    This is somewhat true and i agree with bits of it, but like i said addons aren't only combat related, when will people realize this? I mostly want an UI customization addon as there isn't enough freedom to what i can do with it right now. Also if SE/players are so afraid as to what DPS parsers would do to the community, (which i don't agree btw as i never saw this, taking WoW for example) they could still release the addon interface while not allowing DPS parsers to be in place.

    Anyway whether you want them or not, it seems they already exist through 3rd party software, although not very in agreement with the ToS, they're there and SE isn't really stopping them.

    i say YES to add-ons!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
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    Do people not even read the live letter translations? It's already been stated, when we do get addons, they'll be cosmetic changes only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mael-bess View Post
    Don't use them then, i won't even start the discussion that addons aren't only the DBM type, thing is atm, we don't even have a choice on what to use or how to customize our game, that is what we're asking, not a FFXIV DBM mod, that everybody needs to use, to streamline the fights.
    yet. you are not asking for it YET.
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