TL;DR of live letter

[Krissey]

Here's an example from another with a similar addon I was explaining:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZBwKr2HCz8

[Critical-Limit]

I take it that you're worried people will require it and kick you if you don't have it. I'm not sure how they could know or prove if you have it or not.

I think the person you're addressing wants to experience learning parties where everyone is figuring it out together.

They are worried that like day2, someone might put up plugins for that fight the. That person can't experience it this way and everyone will require you to use the add-on.

People calling out every mechanic during the fight In party chat is a very rare circumstance. So as is this person doesn't experience that often is content.

With add on the fear is every fight will be this way, or you're not allowed to play. And you suggesting just join cuz they won't know. You just asked this person to intentionally be dishonest cuz they "won't know".

[Khavir]

Honestly a lot of it did seem like them saying that they have no idea when to drop PS3 support and because of that they don't know when content is coming or not.

[Kallera]

I don't want it. I haven't wanted it since I started playing the game, and I don't want it still. It was bad enough to deal with looking for different debuffs of players. having add on stuff all over, cluttering the screen and dictating what I should do next? nono.

[Kaurie]

I think the person you're addressing wants to experience learning parties where everyone is figuring it out together.

They are worried that like day2, someone might put up plugins for that fight the. That person can't experience it this way and everyone will require you to use the add-on.

People calling out every mechanic during the fight In party chat is a very rare circumstance. So as is this person doesn't experience that often is content.

With add on the fear is every fight will be this way, or you're not allowed to play. And you suggesting just join cuz they won't know. You just asked this person to intentionally be dishonest cuz they "won't know".

That's a fair desire, but why not just make a PF that says "Blind run, no add-ons/video". I too like doing blind runs and figuring things out myself Though I don't feel that is reason enough to prevent add-ons from being added.

[Colorful]

I bet you're that kind of person that thinks they can remove the echo without the party questioning you doing so. do you really want "no ps4" to be popping up in the pf?

ACT triggers are already a thing, do you see "PC players only, must have codeword for triggers"? Do you see "Must have Discord/Mumble/TeamSpeak for callouts" very often? I doubt it.

[Niwashi]

... having add on stuff all over, cluttering the screen ...

Many addons de-clutter the screen by removing all the stuff that's not currently relevant, and bringing it back up only when you need it, or only showing the parts you select. One of the main benefits is that the UI becomes configurable at a far more detailed level than the basic game options provide.

[Kallera]

That's a fair desire, but why not just make a PF that says "Blind run, no add-ons/video". I too like doing blind runs and figuring things out myself Though I don't feel that is reason enough to prevent add-ons from being added.

Because it would go over about as well as running a minimum ilvl ANYTHING.

In fact ill do it tonight and let you know how it went.

Many addons de-clutter the screen by removing all the stuff that's not currently relevant, and bringing it back up only when you need it, or only showing the parts you select. One of the main benefits is that the UI becomes configurable at a far more detailed level than the basic game options provide.

I want to believe this, really I do, but when I see some of the add ons generally used on WoW(because this is clearly where this is going), I think its going to be...too far

[Kaurie]

Because it would go over about as well as running a minimum ilvl ANYTHING.

In fact ill do it tonight and let you know how it went.

You'll do what tonight? Add-ons are not in the game.

However, if you wanted to actually study, you could randomly choose a large number of sample times to put up a PF and do half of them posting "learning party Seph EX, must have watched a video" and "Learning party seph ex, blind run no video". After you have a sample of ~100 of that, you could give a decent outcome of the differences.

All of that said, if the majority of players would want you to have the addon to join their party, then the majority of players would want the add-on and it's something that the dev team should support for that reason alone.

[Kallera]

You'll do what tonight? Add-ons are not in the game.

However, if you wanted to actually study, you could randomly choose a large number of sample times to put up a PF and do half of them posting "learning party Seph EX, must have watched a video" and "Learning party seph ex, blind run no video". After you have a sample of ~100 of that, you could give a decent outcome of the differences.

All of that said, if the majority of players would want you to have the addon to join their party, then the majority of players would want the add-on and it's something that the dev team should support for that reason alone.

I was going to apologize, but tbh, I just don't care anymore. Nothing matters, does it!? Its just another thing I'll have to get used to to enjoy a theme park.