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    Luxea's Avatar
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    Luxea Dawnlight
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    Ragnarok
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    Bard Lv 60
    Increasing experience gain any further is a bad idea. People need to learn their class and actually play the class to get it higher in level. And no, I have leveled 9 classes to 60, geared them all in ilvl 200+ and I dungeon grinded each and every one to get as much practice with the class rotation as possible and to optimize my performance wherever possible. Not everybody likes to turn their brain off and FATE grind. Nevermind the outright lack of enjoyability doing that, you end up automatically behind on lvling gear, effectively locking yourself out of successful dungeoning without spending gil, and lacking practice using that class in boss fights where there are actual mechanics. Yes, you have to work to earn your levels. I'm sorry, but that's how things are and I sincerely hope from the bottom of my heart leveling does not became more faceroll than it already is. 9 times I hit 60 and I still feel I have very much to learn, optimize, and try out, even on my main, which I've played for the longest time.
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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Luxea View Post
    Increasing experience gain any further is a bad idea. People need to learn their class and actually play the class to get it higher in level. And no, I have leveled 9 classes to 60, geared them all in ilvl 200+ and I dungeon grinded each and every one to get as much practice with the class rotation as possible. Not everybody likes to turn their brain off and FATE grind. Nevermind the outright lack of enjoyability doing that, you end up automatically behind on lvling gear, effectively locking yourself out of successful dungeoning without spending gil, and lacking practice using that class in boss fights where there are actual mechanics. Yes, you have to work to earn your levels. I'm sorry, but that's how things are.
    Except, that most people don't and cannot learn their classes until max level when they have and get their abilities. A lot of classes change completely around max and higher level. So its actually not that bad of an idea. This also ISN'T for new players.

    Rotations change dramatically the higher and higher level you go. Even with 1000% experience its not like you don't have to do the class quests and NOT run dungeons.
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    Luxea Dawnlight
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Except, that most people don't and cannot learn their classes until max level when they have and get their abilities. A lot of classes change completely around max and higher level. So its actually not that bad of an idea. This also ISN'T for new players.

    Rotations change dramatically the higher and higher level you go. Even with 1000% experience its not like you don't have to do the class quests and NOT run dungeons.
    Don't make assumptions about the whole population of players when you have 0 statistics to back up your statement. I have lost my respect for you. Rewards have to be earned, According to your proposal, my next class I level should be getting 7 levels every dungeon run or so at around lvl 35-ish. /facepalm
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Luxea View Post
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    this is something else entirely. as i have always said, players choose to learn to play, and players choose to be bad.

    you can make them play 500 hours to reach max lvl and learn to play yada yada but if they choose to not learn but still make it to make lvl they do.

    bad players stay bad by choice not because the game let them skip learning.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Then why bring up the MSQ? If you made an alt, have a level 60, you already did it. Its also becoming skippable soon.
    i answered that, while it is skippable it's the fastest way to lvl main story once you know it become 100x faster to complete because you skip all the long cutscenes and with the massive amount of exp quests give you (they also got doubled with a past update) you are given a path from 1-60 with minimal effort, so giving them a even faster way is pointless as you already have one, course your way would be pretty much instant.
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    Last edited by Musashidon; 03-29-2016 at 04:39 AM.