do people hate tanking?

[AngelicSence]

when i am in a dungeon and our tank decides to leave or dc it takes a long time for another one to appear

Btw, not only tanks

[Gemina]

As a healer main, if I notice dps pulling and the tank doesn't try to grab the new mobs, I won't heal that Dps. When they die the mobs usually just go back to their original position.

I've been deliberately told to do this by tanks in my FC. Luckily, it hasn't come to that yet. In most instances I've been in, the DPS are very quick to get things done, and will occasionally run ahead of the tank but never into agro range. I've seen DPS accidently get agro, but never purposely pull ahead of the tank. I really don't know if I have it in me to just let someone die. But if I have to choose between 1 and 4, the math is pretty simple.

[vp_cmc]

I usually go dps and not tank, because even if other dps is a complete garbage, the run will end at least at average time. If I go as a tank, I may meet 2 bad dps, and it will be 1 hour run, no, thanks. Sometimes I can meet a tank, who can't keep aggro (with quelling and so on), but it is very rare. Bad dps, on the other side, is quite common.

[ZephyrMenodora]

I'm a WHM main and I love all tanks because I don't personally enjoy playing one.

I don't care how quickly a tank pulls - if it's fast it keeps me on my toes and if it's slow I will just dps a little. I don't think anyone should tell the tank how to play and they should just proceed as they feel comfortable.

When I see a great tank and I get 3 commendations I feel a little guilty as the tank really impacts how well the run goes more often than not.

Anyway totally willing to Tank Worship so I don't need to play mine

Why I don't enjoy tanks:

1. I've played healer mains since 1999 and that's just what I enjoy. I don't particularly enjoy DPSing either though I will sometimes play a summoner to help Rez while DPSing and I get to heal a pet I guess.
2. I hate being in the lead - it's stressful if you don't know zones like the back of your hand.

That's it really. People who feel powerless as a tank should feel even more powerless as a DPS as you can work around a bad dps easier than a bad tank.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

When I play my tank these days I feel like a Shark with all my teeth pulled out. Not being able to deal much damage is extremely frustrating. In other games i've played Tanks usually deal similar damage to tier 2 DPS but lack temp abilities and abilities that weaken the monster.

However in this game DPS just does DPS.

Bards are also just DPS with tiny group buffs.

[Genaxx]

No one said anything about playing poorly.

Think of it this way. Say the tank, knowing their own limits, knows that they can safely pull (and hold) ten mobs, but no more. So they gather those 10, and proceed to do their job.

A DPS decides that 10 isn't enough, and purposely pulls 5 more. The tank (going by your theory) pulls them all off of the dps. However those 15 mobs are a bit beyond the tanks ability. So the tank starts taking damage faster than it can be healed. The healer begins to struggle, and the tank eventually dies. Then the healer, then the dps. Congrats, we have a wipe.

If the tank simply let the dps die, all the mobs would then move to the tank. Maybe they can pull it off, maybe they'll still wipe. But at that point the fault would be on the dps, who would hopefully learn their lesson.

So really that would be the dps playing poorly. A good tank knows their limits, and will pull accordingly. They set the pace. And the dps should follow.

So your down 1 DPS which means the mobs will take longer to die, and you will then have to pull the aggro off the healer who will have to heal more since it will take longer to kill the mobs now. Either way its probably going to be a wipe and would be the DPS' fault for pulling the extra mobs.

[Esp]

Coming from a mostly DF tank myself, I enjoy tanking. Especially now that DRK is a tank. Moving from PLD to DRK back then in the DPS and hate department was almost night and day. I enjoy my quick queue's, and if I can, I will come back as a tank to make up for any scrub ones that left the party, for whatever reason (if the darn DF would let me back in the same party at least).

I used to get stressed out as a tank, and sometimes, like when a new raid comes out, I still do cause I worry about the mistakes I may make, but learning from them is half the battle. I like seeing how much my group can handle before I decide to pull either more or less, and will usually communicate with my healers before making any drastic changes thru the run. If you don't have that synergy with your healer, things will be just as worse as having 2 bad dps.

You WILL make mistakes, learn from them. Or, you may come out of it a hero, then figure out how to do even better next time.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

That's it really. People who feel powerless as a tank should feel even more powerless as a DPS as you can work around a bad dps easier than a bad tank.

Nah. Bad tanks aren't particularly difficult to work around. Bad DPS are the worst cause they cause fights to last far too long and tax everyone's resources for no reason.

A good DPS can easily tank for a bad tank, a great tank can't DPS as hard as a good DPS, which is why I've been using my DPS far more.

[Aryalandi]

It's not so much people hate it. It's that they hate being in the lead, especially with strangers.
It could be they're too timid

This, this is more or less my problem with tanking even though it is one of the main jobs that I play, I feel incredibly timid and nervous about the concept of being in the lead during dungeons, especially if I have never been to a dungeon before. I worry that I won't do a good job, or that I will slow more experienced players down, also tanks are kind of expected to be in front of everyone leading the way through the dungeon, I worry about getting lost even though that is silly lol..

It isn't so much that people hate tanking, its that as a tank like with healer you are taking up the added responsibility of keeping your party alive and that can be a very intimidating concept. That is why there are so many dps characters compared to tanks and healers, all dps really has to think of is themselves and the order that they need to kill things in. For duty finder I usually go drg when I can, then I use Paladin for solo instances and storyline. Even though I have been told before that I tank well it's much harder for me to be in a party as a tank than it is as a dps because I am a perfectionist with myself.

"Am I going too fast?"
"Am I going too slow?"
"Am I pulling too much?"
"Am I pulling too little?"
"Am I going the right way?"
"Am I keeping everything focused on me well enough?"
"Did I memorize the mechanics well enough to keep this boss from hurting my party?"

Generally those questions are going through my head from the start of a dungeon to the end of the dungeon, I have never had a party melt down half way through a dungeon which is a good sign but it is still always nerve-racking for me personally.

On a side note.. because I noticed some of "that" going on... one thing that I have never worried about even once because it isn't my job is..

"Am I doing enough damage?" Former strength tanks must have it even worse I would imagine because they put the extra unrequired burden of high dps on themselves when that was never once the job they were supposed to be doing. I'm sorry to prod anyone but strength tanking doesn't make you better, it means that you aren't playing the class as intended and means that you are a subpar tank playing at being a subpar dps x.x;; and I feel soooo mean for saying that but.. yeah.. you are a less powerful less squishy dps who has more of the healers attention than the actual dps get because you are wearing a tank disguise. I am so thankful that it was fixed.

[Jim_Berry]

People hate tanking because tanks can't deal any damage at all. Especially post nerf, when they replaced all the tanks weapons with colorful varieties of pool noodle toys. It's better to go as DPS.

I wish it was easy to just tank and NOT have to focus on trying to push dps numbers. Seems that people like me who just want to tank can't because there's too much bashing due to low numbers.