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  1. #81
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    Jim Berry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcat9715 View Post
    I used to tank back before 3.0 hit, but decided to stop afterwards due to the fact that tanking requires good gear at all times or they're going to lose aggro alot. Since 3.0 hit i've just been playing DoM jobs, but I'm wondering if I should pick up Drk and give it another shot. Have they made it easier for tanks to hold aggro regardless of gear?
    Yes. Tank stances generate more enmity, and other actions, such as Savage Blade, Skull Sunder, and Spinning Slash all also generate more enmity.

    It is said that DRK has become more of an MT since PLD beat it now with DRK's lack of OT utility. I haven't MT'd much as DRK, though, unless it's a solo thing.
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    Last edited by Jim_Berry; 03-28-2016 at 09:23 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    I wish it was easy to just tank and NOT have to focus on trying to push dps numbers. Seems that people like me who just want to tank can't because there's too much bashing due to low numbers.
    for the most part it is pretty easy to tank as long as your gear is good and you understand the basics of aggro/cooldowns. Thats WHY people want you to push out good numbers. Being a basic tank and staying in tank stance hitting your 1,2,3 combo over and over makes you an ok tank. You are a still a damage dealer at the end of the day since you are hitting things. I think a lot of tanks forget that.

    You can just as easily hold aggro and be a meat shield WHILE doing great dps. If you can make a run faster why wouldn't you? If I was a tank that only tanked or a healer that only healed i'd be bored of the game really fast only because most content doesn't hit hard enough to warrant more.
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    Last edited by Gameplayzero; 03-28-2016 at 09:36 AM.

  3. #83
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    Khalith Mateo
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    I love tanking but bad groups make me not want to tank.
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    I really feel bad for new GLD/PLDs right now though.

    Pre-Shield Oath is even more of a nightmare now. I'm ilvl 208 and have been struggling with aggro against DPS in gear worse than the dungeon drops in Toto Rak as an example during my low level roulettes. Before STR tanking got nerfed, I had no issues with it.
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  5. #85
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    Tanking is a chore and people don't pay per month to do chores.

    Proof of this : SE gave tank roulettes special mounts after doing a certain number, also glamour and other things you can only get by tanking, they know tanking isn't fun so if they try and force it maybe it will be fun? nope.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameplayzero View Post
    for the most part it is pretty easy to tank as long as your gear is good and you understand the basics of aggro/cooldowns. Thats WHY people want you to push out good numbers. Being a basic tank and staying in tank stance hitting your 1,2,3 combo over and over makes you an ok tank. You are a still a damage dealer at the end of the day since you are hitting things. I think a lot of tanks forget that.

    You can just as easily hold aggro and be a meat shield WHILE doing great dps. If you can make a run faster why wouldn't you? If I was a tank that only tanked or a healer that only healed i'd be bored of the game really fast only because most content doesn't hit hard enough to warrant more.
    My tank is, for the most time, paired with people at almost 10 iLvs higher than me, so I have to Halone like 3 times in a row before throwing on Goring or Royal. That said, I'd rather be labeled as a tank that can't dps than a tank that can't hold hate. Either way, both paths are flagged as "You suck!".

    *EDIT*
    After my run-ins with my tanking experiences lately, I realized I'm not a legit tank. I can't push 1k like everyone else. So, I'll just continue being a NIN.
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    Last edited by Jim_Berry; 03-28-2016 at 09:51 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adventica6 View Post
    Tanking is a chore and people don't pay per month to do chores.

    Proof of this : SE gave tank roulettes special mounts after doing a certain number, also glamour and other things you can only get by tanking, they know tanking isn't fun so if they try and force it maybe it will be fun? nope.
    And the Live Letter noted more tank mounts coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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    I play a tank everytime in df to avoid bad tanks

    But then again, you can have bad healers and dpses. They are easy to replace though, if one leave or got kicked, another usually joins within a minute.
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    James Dynamite
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    My tank is, for the most time, paired with people at almost 10 iLvs higher than me, so I have to Halone like 3 times in a row before throwing on Goring or Royal. That said, I'd rather be labeled as a tank that can't dps than a tank that can't hold hate. Either way, both paths are flagged as "You suck!".

    *EDIT*
    After my run-ins with my tanking experiences lately, I realized I'm not a legit tank. I can't push 1k like everyone else. So, I'll just continue being a NIN.
    yeah you should have a handle on holding aggro and being a tank first before trying to do extra. So if you are losing aggro then yeah you are still in the right. Honestly rotations for tanks is pretty simple outside of raids, so you might be doing good enough dps as it is and cutting yourself short. Its just goring blade with loads of royal authority as you've said.
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  10. #90
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    Nex Ixchel
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I was scared to tank, and leveled up 2 healers and a dps before I attempted to level a tank. It's surprisingly fun, but it stresses me out to do more than a dungeon or two at a time. Once I get it to 60, I'll probably only play it when a friend/FC needs one and I'm not already busy. My tank of choice is DRK, and while I'm not max, I'm not sure I'll ever be a "dps" tank. Just like I'm not really a "dps" healer. If I feel like I can, I will, but most of the time, I'd rather play it safe (as long as it's not too slow).
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