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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Divine_Intervention View Post
    Remind me again what *you* had before you got lucky enough with a group? Oh yeah.. bonus. Were you lazy, expected a carry and or had no knowledge, and if so, did this all magically change the instant you got your achievement?
    We didn't get "lucky". We learned the fight. We made learning and clear groups of our own, or join others, to be comfortable with the fight and understand all the mechanics as well as how to deal with them. I also could have sent tells to a farming PF saying that I've been to enrage but haven't cleared, but as a tank, it will be clear when I am messing up and to kick me if I do so. You know what I didn't do? Sneak into a farm group and stay quiet or lie about my bonus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cold_Raven View Post
    This option is a waste of time.

    Yes, it's possible for a newcomer to not know the fight and screw up.
    But even with this option it's still possible for a carried-clearer to enter and screw up your fight anyway (and they are more prevalent, if you've ever done these fights before.)

    The amount of anguish this option would solve is insignificant.

    The solution to this problem (grouping with unknowns without knowing their skill level), is for the starter of the PF to form a static.

    That's what statics are for.

    This option is not what PF is for.

    Yes, you are allowed to have a goal of clearing content with similarly skilled people and ignore everyone else on the server.

    But the only reasonable path to that goal is a static. Every other suggestion like this does not make that path easier, it makes it harder (you're meeting less new people who could be a great addition to your static).

    It's a waste of development time.
    For the second time in this post, you don't need a static to clear EX primals and people who have cleared it before shouldn't be kept from farming because others are dishonest in their ability to down content. This is not a game design flaw, but a flaw in the playerbase and how such a huge number think it's ok to be dishonest. The notion that I have to get my static together (or find a static if I don't have one, or don't because I haven't the time for one) every time I want to clear non-Midas savage content is rather silly. You don't get to decide what belongs and doesn't belong in PF when farming in PF is possible, and only ruined when dishonest players join a farm group, whether it's people who've cleared who still don't know what they're doing, or joining and lying about your bonus instead of talking to the PF leader about it.
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    Last edited by Odett; 03-16-2016 at 11:11 PM.