Please Add no bonus option for PF

[CrystalRainbow]

My suggestion to you is to use a static party to clear content and challenge content.

This is the main Reason I don't use PF for any content but clear new or challenging content but do it with FC/LS members.

One FC member is part of World clear groups.
They turn around and normally Train the rest of us to clear content.

[Odett]

My suggestion to you is to use a static party to clear content and challenge content.

You don't need to be in a static in order to clear EX primals, and people without them shouldn't be excluded from farming content just because, as this thread has clearly shown, a huge number of players feel entitled to sneak into farm groups and lie about their bonus.

[DPZ2]

After reading posts for a few days, I think that SE should accept the OP's suggestion. The PF creator should have the discretion to set up the party such that no 'new people' can join.

Now that we've got that out of the way, I also think that if that box is checked, the PF creator should NOT have any ability to 'set it aside' for special cases (tells, whispers, etc)

Either it's "no bonus" or "don't care". Shouldn't be able to do both.

[WinterLuna]

I made a thread about this long ago. I'm actually going to bump it. In short, I support.

If this was an option, it's not harming anybody but the people wanting to sneak into farm parties. It's as simple as that when it boils down to it.

[Fynlar]

As I've said before in another thread a lot like this one, instead of complaining about all the people who "lie" joining no-bonus parties when they haven't cleared, you guys should try looking at *why* people do this so much.

[WinterLuna]

As I've said before in another thread a lot like this one, instead of complaining about all the people who "lie" joining no-bonus parties when they haven't cleared, you guys should try looking at *why* people do this so much.

Because they're lazy? Because they get a free carry? Because they don't have to learn the fight and have others do it for them? There's no excuse. If you're new, you shouldn't be joining a party requesting no new players. It's simple.

[Divine_Intervention]

Because they're lazy? Because they get a free carry? Because they don't have to learn the fight and have others do it for them? There's no excuse. If you're new, you shouldn't be joining a party requesting no new players. It's simple.

And this is everything wrong with the party finder no bonus parties.
Not everyone is lazy - they may spend hours each day trying to clear with incapable parties.
Not everyone is after a free carry - They may actually be a huge boost to your team.
Not everyone who has bonus doesn't understand the fight - See point about time spent.

Remind me again what *you* had before you got lucky enough with a group? Oh yeah.. bonus. Were you lazy, expected a carry and or had no knowledge, and if so, did this all magically change the instant you got your achievement?

[Singularity]

Not everyone is lazy
Not everyone is after a free carry
Not everyone who has bonus doesn't understand the fight

But the majority of those that would join a farm group without having a clear are like that. Those are the ones that this filter would block.

If someone is one of those rare examples that you cite, then they can ask for an exception. I expect they'd probably be granted it, but ultimately it's rightfully the party leader's decision.

[Synrin]

But the majority of those that would join a farm group without having a clear are like that. Those are the ones that this filter would block.

If someone is one of those rare examples that you cite, then they can ask for an exception. I expect they'd probably be granted it, but ultimately it's rightfully the party leader's decision.

This is exactly the thing, those who are the exceptions will ask and talk to to the leader, instead of sneaking, lying and just in general not caring about the party.

[Singularity]

I would say it is reasonable to expect that someone that has not cleared is probably not capable of farming. A farm group is not merely looking for a kill, but smooth, efficient, repeated clears, including recovery from mistakes that may happen. That requires a degree of comfort with a fight that someone is unlikely to have if they have not cleared it yet.

Note unlikely, not impossible, but the /tell system already exists for someone that has not cleared, but believes themself comfortable enough with the fight to farm it.