Quote Originally Posted by Andrea View Post
I want to create a farm party with people who have cleared the fight before and therefore shouldn't require learning it while we are attempting to farm it.

Unfortunately for me Lemuria believes that they should be allowed in to mess up in a farm party because they, "dont magically get better without trying"

Lets not even get into the fact that someone joining a farm party that well you know can't farm it is essentially saying to 7 other people. carry me.
is 5 minutes (assuming you wipe) really that important to you?

is giving someone a chance to clear who maybe has spent days learning the fight but has had bad luck with pf groups that much a burden? if they fail and you can pin the fail on them, Yeah, that person lied, Kick them. worst case scenario, you wasted 5 minutes.