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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    The actual dps classes are typically not just allowed to be mediocre, but criticize healers now too.
    Like I've said before, no one wants DPS to get good, ever. Otherwise, people would actually support DPS having actual responsibilities. As it stands now, DPS jobs are more often an afterthought in any composition then something people want around.

    Unfortunately, in this game mediocre DPS are celebrated since they give healers/tanks more to do via happily shoving all the leg work off on their cohorts, while DPS that actually either want to approve, or are actually competent at their jobs, are condemned because they take away from what healers could be doing, afai understand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noxifer View Post
    I can't confirm the 'clearing everything' without any DPS jobs, but I do know that due to role preferences, we had groups from my FC levelling 50-60 and doing some dungeons with either two tanks or two healers (with one tank or healer pretending to be a dps). I know we did in particular the Vault with both combinations; had no particular issues as such, and while it did go slightly slower than with two DPS jobs, there was no particular difference in speed between the 'two tanks' and the 'two healers' setup. (Might be worth to mention that the distribution of roles was DRK/WAR or PLD/WAR and SCH/WHM respectively, with the WAR or SCH 'pretending to be a dps'.)
    It's common on Malboro, at least. I've seen or taken part in no DPS clears of pretty much everything from Sastasha synced down to A8N with a mixture of healers/tanks, including runs of every coil turn before Heavensward launched, 1 tank/23 healer runs of Void Ark/CT instances. I'm pretty sure I've even seen a couple of Savage Coil groups successfully clear without DPS, though I never entered that one personally because it's never interested me.
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    Last edited by Thunda_Cat_SMASH; 03-14-2016 at 01:51 PM.