Is dpsing and a healer becoming the standard norm!

[dinnertime]

I am not sure if I am misunderstanding you, but are you saying that damage in raids is not predictable? I agree, Seph EX requires a lot more healing than dungeons. Despite this, I have no issue getting in damage consistently throughout the entire thing. I've been healing in a raiding environment in FFXIV for a long time - I mention this as it sounds like you think I am new to the game or new to healing or something. I've personally healed in T1, T2, T4, T5, T6, T9, T10, T11, T12, T13, A1S, A2S, Garuda Ex, Titan Ex, Ifrit Ex, Leviathan Ex, Ramuh Ex, Shiva Ex, Ravana Ex, Bismarck Ex, Sephirot Ex, Thordan Ex, Moogle Ex.

No I am not implying you are new at all. While most fights we have are scripted, it doesn't mean it will always go as planned with the party with some people who would make mistakes like for example: a party member killing too much adds simultaneously in Sephirot Ex or getting debuffs, and there are certainly some random mechanics as well.
By the way they example you gave is just as predictable as most fights in FFXIV if you know the monster is getting near a certain party member. It's comparable to cast timers.

Well that would be quite idiotic.

Then don't hope for it.

I am not sure the relevance of this as directed to me. Or was just the first half of your post directed at me? If this part is, then I believe you didn't read my posts entirety or misunderstood something along the way. As a healer, I have DPSed in every encounter. I understand the game is designed with this in mind, but that doesn't make me think that the design isn't bad.

Most of what I've said isn't really directed to you specifically but it's related to the thread discussion here.

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Same as above. People believe healers shouldn't be called a healer if they're advised to DPS.

Unfortunate truths here.

It's unfortunate that you are opposed to this.

why do i have to put all my healing spells to waste? i have lots of them, not just regen o.ô

Because there's a specific time for them, same with damage spells.

[Tint]

I'll never understand this mindset of "If i'm expected to DPS as a healer then I should've just rolled a DPS class/job instead" when all of the roles already have so much opportunities and tools to DPS. You're just putting all of that to waste.

why do i have to put all my healing spells to waste? i have lots of them, not just regen o.ô

[MomomiMomi]

I disagree, even in raids and such, DPS from healers is very much a thing. Further, healing is way too predictable. I know exactly which person will be hit when for how much at any given point. Healing in Guild Wars 1 was much more involved and interesting even in just the open world (I use 'open world' loosely here as technically everything was instanced). To elaborate, a proactive measure in Guild Wars 1 would be - Oh i see a big ass mob running towards our caster, I'll start casting a big heal on the caster. A proactive measure in FFXIV is oh it's 2:43 into the fight, let's adlo the ranged DPS.

Oh, I know that dps from healers is a thing. I was just saying that that's where you actually have to heal. I absolutely agree with you that healing is too predictable, and also agree with the other person who was saying healing is too strong. These are "problems" with healing in this game. I personally don't like these aspects of healers. But I do like healer being able to dps as well, so I'm not entirely complaining about it. At least not in dungeons.

[AriaFae]

I mained SCH and then AST for a while, until I decided that if I was going to spend more time dps'ing than healing then I might as well just make a dps job my main. I just don't like having to play two jobs at the same time, I guess.

Healers shouldn't feel obligated to DPS, and ragging on a healer for not DPSing should never be okay. If they wanted to DPS, fine. If not, let them be the job they chose.

[AngelicSence]

[QUOTE=Reinha;3616560]I also think healing should be made harder, but in a different way. By nerfing heal potencies. /QUOTE]

Interesting idea, but it highly depends on how much you want to see it cut. If the idea here is to make healing more intense so that healers must spam healing constantly.. Seeing how current system works today, this might be very problematic. SE always try to adjust content based on existing player power. So new content are created knowing how much healers can heal. If you cut heal potency in the next update, you will see suddent difficulty increase in raids. Players already die under the skilled, well geared healers watch. I don't think SE will consider this as an option, also, they don't see healing as a problem, but healers simply adding more DPS and content being completed faster than expected. That's why they nerfed holy twice, removed accuracy from gear and now require melding.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I. Im not understanding why tanks and healers are constantly being questioned but never dps.

It's because being a DPS has absolutely 0 real worth outside of top end raids. Not having a dps won't stop you from clearing content, it just might take slightly longer to clear content. It's fairly common to be fully capable of clearing everything without a single DPS job, running nothing but healers and tanks because healer DPS is frankly insanely high.

[Seoulstar]

Well maybe this is why tanks and healers are becoming scarce. So many people are trying to dictate whatever they do. I'm just going to say this. If the healer is keeping you alive. Just worry about that. They are doing their jobs. If you want a healer to dps so badly. Then roll a healer yourself and do it. But don't force other players to play a game the way you want them to play it. You are not paying the sub for them. You have no say how they play their class. If they want to DPS, then that's great. If they don't? So what? It's not going to determine if you live or die in a dungeon.

[FinalWolf]

Conjurer's quest and hall of novice literally tell you to dsp when you can lmao.

[AngelicSence]

Conjurer's quest and hall of novice literally tell you to dsp when you can lmao.

I love that keikaku intensifies picture lol..

[Powe]

Imo its fine if a healer wants just to heal, the only thing that erks me is when a sch just heals and has eos/selene out on sic. Yes while its not required its a drain and waste for those fairys. Thats why we need a dps fairy, for the heal only scholars.