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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    I guess no one knows what the word optional means.
    Oh we know what it means. It's just that optionally choosing to do nothing but healing in a situation where you don't need to heal is an utter waste of potential.

    I can literally go on Sch, get Selene out and have her solo heal the entire thing. If I did that, if I let the fairy do everything, but I OPTIONALLY chose to not DPS, what would you say to that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    Oh we know what it means. It's just that optionally choosing to do nothing but healing in a situation where you don't need to heal is an utter waste of potential.

    I can literally go on Sch, get Selene out and have her solo heal the entire thing. If I did that, if I let the fairy do everything, but I OPTIONALLY chose to not DPS, what would you say to that?
    I've actually been asked this very question before and I'll say now what I said then. As long as your fairy doesn't let us die I really don't care. I would t care if your fairy let us die either as long as they could raise us but of course they can't do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    I've actually been asked this very question before and I'll say now what I said then. As long as your fairy doesn't let us die I really don't care. I would t care if your fairy let us die either as long as they could raise us but of course they can't do that.
    That's bullshit and you know it. You'd think I was lazy, getting carried, not pulling my weight.

    Or are you saying that as long as the boss dies, and I'm only autoattacking , you wouldn't care either?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    I've actually been asked this very question before and I'll say now what I said then. As long as your fairy doesn't let us die I really don't care. I would t care if your fairy let us die either as long as they could raise us but of course they can't do that.
    We get it. You're a bad healer, and you condone others being bad healers. Thanks for your contribution to the topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velthice View Post
    We get it. You're a bad healer, and you condone others being bad healers. Thanks for your contribution to the topic.
    Yeah cause healers not dpsing makes them bad. I dps in all casual content out of boredom not needing to heal all the time so don't think I'm bad just because I think a certain way is acceptable. I'm also pretty sure if I was that bad I wouldn't have been able to clear Seph EX as a WHM. Oh you know what? I didn't dps in the run I cleared in because I wasn't comfortable with the fight and when to time heals. If I had chosen to dps instead of focusing on keeping people alive we would have wiped even more. Please do go on, this is vastly entertaining.

    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    That's bullshit and you know it. You'd think I was lazy, getting carried, not pulling my weight.

    Or are you saying that as long as the boss dies, and I'm only autoattacking , you wouldn't care either?
    Some days I really don't care. If auto attacks could get the job done I'm fine with it. It depends on my mood at the time. Yes I'm serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
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    You don't need to heal for pretty much half of phase 3, as soon as the might and magic buffs are on everyone is practically immortal. You can figure this out the first time you're in there, if, in future runs you're choosing to not dps in that phase I would personally call you out on it. You're actually more likely to cause a wipe in that instance since that phase is a huge dps check.

    Do go on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    You don't need to heal for pretty much half of phase 3, as soon as the might and magic buffs are on everyone is practically immortal. You can figure this out the first time you're in there, if, in future runs you're choosing to not dps in that phase I would personally call you out on it. You're actually more likely to cause a wipe in that instance since that phase is a huge dps check.

    Do go on.
    And since I've cleared I have started dpsing in phase 3 during might and magic. Before clear I wasn't comfortable with it and I didn't know if any outgoing damage was coming out during might and magic and was trying to conserve mana. And I might clarify we cleared proving me dpsing would have been optional anyway.


    Quote Originally Posted by Velthice View Post
    Hey, glad we agree on something! Real talk you have a minority opinion. Sometimes that happens you know? The community is pretty decided on this one. You can jump up and down and tell people that your opinion is right, just don't get mad or act surprised when people disagree with you. Especially when you say stuff like this.

    So you know, carry on, fight the power and all that.
    Eh the forums largely represent a very vocal elitist minority from what I've gathered and been told. Most people I encounter in game don't care if a healer does dps or not as long as they keep everyone alive. Edit cause post limit for the day.
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    Last edited by TheUltimateSeph; 03-13-2016 at 07:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
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    Any healer worth their salt has one eye on their party list and the other on mechanics, so if it took you until your clear to figure out that no damage was taken, then, uhh...

    Yes, it was optional in that clear but what of future runs? Not everyone is perfect, one dps slips up in the first phase 3 rotation and RIPs, you wipe to a 1% enrage. Guess where that 1% could have come from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    Eh the forums largely represent a very vocal elitist minority from what I've gathered and been told. Most people I encounter in game don't care if a healer does dps or not as long as they keep everyone alive. Edit cause post limit for the day.
    Please. I don't ever take the official forums into account because it's place full of crazy, and constantly the butt of every joke. It's gotten to the point that being an "OF poster" is considered an insult in my FC. Anyway, here's an experiment that you can try at home. Go to literally any other xiv hub. Reddit, bluegartr forums, guildwork, anywhere where semi serious discussion takes place. Present your argument there and get back to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    Yeah cause healers not dpsing makes them bad.
    Hey, glad we agree on something! Real talk you have a minority opinion. Sometimes that happens you know? The community is pretty decided on this one. You can jump up and down and tell people that your opinion is right, just don't get mad or act surprised when people disagree with you. Especially when you say stuff like this.
    If auto attacks could get the job done I'm fine with it.
    So you know, carry on, fight the power and all that.
    Please do go on, this is vastly entertaining.
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