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  1. #771
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    MiniTyra's Avatar
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    Mini Tyra
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    All of the weighted BiS sets at around the projected 720 accuracy are all roughly the same. 600 DET, 600 SS, 1030CRT, tbh.

    As for the sets for the lower accuracy requirements, I think it would be best to solve it for the highest accuracy requirement, then "lock" the melds into the "BiS items", when solving for the accuracy tier below.

    That way you won't end up with something dumb, like two different meld combinations for 1 piece of equipment, for two different accuracy requirements.
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  2. #772
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    PheonixCain's Avatar
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    Pheonix Grimmie
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    Famfrit
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    looks like i shud never get the lore chest unless i am done with lore gear progression and only getting it for glamours...
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  3. #773
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    Erys Shir'en
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    Zodiark
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    I'm so raising my hands to give you guys energy to run those BiS calculations, because I'm a potato towards pc's and technology. \._./

    In the mean time I'll use my feet to try and clear A5S dummy with i200 eso weapon. 1 clear with lucky crits, a gazillion fails to normal critrate. I cri evrtyem because my friends don't want to do Gordias Savage with me :c

    Oh, and since glam was brought on the table I like the feet and arms, the chest and helm look too much Valkyria-ish and viking/northern mitology like. Legs are neutral in my book. Love the spear and would have preferred to have Leviathan lore, because you know... scales.

    Thank you for doing the effort for everyone -silently continues to send energy to the dragoon overlords- \._./
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  4. #774
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    Aleph Alpha
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Hi there. I'm kinda new to DRG, my DRG is now at full i210 (full upgraded eso except gordian gloves and one gordian ring) and I failed SSS A5S for a 4-5 times (best was 2% HP left I think) so I have some questions about my rotation.

    I'm following the advanced opener posted in page 1, with some minor changes:

    I changed [PS + LEGS] and [LIFES + GK] into [LEGS + PS] and [GK + LIFES] because I'm more used to the latter, but I don't think these would matter (cmiiw).

    I moved BOTD between Disembowel and Chaos Thrust since I don't use potions for SSS. That 2.4-3s shift ended up changing how I use GK throughout the encounter, but I made sure to maintain 3 GK/min rate. Does this happen to mess up the potencies (in relation to buffs)?

    Thanks.
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  5. #775
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    Khadroth's Avatar
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    Kara Ragna
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    Brynhildr
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    So for those of you calculating BiS, if you weren't getting the ring (I know it's a safe buy) or chest (cuz it kinda sucks) this week, what would you get? Specifically from the 495 pieces (head/gloves/boots)? I'm guessing lore gloves?
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  6. #776
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aleph_null View Post
    Hi there. I'm kinda new to DRG, my DRG is now at full i210 (full upgraded eso except gordian gloves and one gordian ring) and I failed SSS A5S for a 4-5 times (best was 2% HP left I think) so I have some questions about my rotation.

    I'm following the advanced opener posted in page 1, with some minor changes:

    I changed [PS + LEGS] and [LIFES + GK] into [LEGS + PS] and [GK + LIFES] because I'm more used to the latter, but I don't think these would matter (cmiiw).

    I moved BOTD between Disembowel and Chaos Thrust since I don't use potions for SSS. That 2.4-3s shift ended up changing how I use GK throughout the encounter, but I made sure to maintain 3 GK/min rate. Does this happen to mess up the potencies (in relation to buffs)?

    Thanks.
    It doesn't matter too much, but I think the way it's listed is a little bit quicker when you take into account animation locks and such. Some abilities just pair better together when you are double-weaving. When I'm not using a potion I just use PS+LegS in the same spot, it keeps botd consistent at least. The only difference between using botd between ID-Dis and Dis-CT is you can execute a GK one combo sooner. Either way you still get 3/min, it just shifts after which combo. (there are considerations on some fights like a3s where the phase is 60 sec, if you use botd between ID-Dis you can not get 3 GK off, you have to pop it between Dis-CT to get 3 off before phase change)

    Quote Originally Posted by Khadroth View Post
    So for those of you calculating BiS, if you weren't getting the ring (I know it's a safe buy) or chest (cuz it kinda sucks) this week, what would you get? Specifically from the 495 pieces (head/gloves/boots)? I'm guessing lore gloves?
    1000 tomes for weapon. But that's just me having a bugger of a time trying to figure out the next best piece to upgrade. Most likely I'll need a couple of pieces together to keep stats reasonable so I'm just gonna save for the weapon now.
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  7. #777
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    1000 tomes for weapon. But that's just me having a bugger of a time trying to figure out the next best piece to upgrade. Most likely I'll need a couple of pieces together to keep stats reasonable so I'm just gonna save for the weapon now.
    Yeah that's the same problem I'm having at the moment. Gloves and ring seem like the best choices but I can't really afford the accuracy hit with my crafted chest (also because I keep failing those darn Acc 4 melds). Slipstream helm seems to solve all my issues in one fell swoop (I'm high on sksp as well), but I'm not sure about it being BiS. http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/T5D5 is what I'm working with.

    Edit: Nvm, that Midan helm is terrible in the same way that the lore chest is. Makes the choice pretty clear.
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    Last edited by Khadroth; 03-09-2016 at 12:42 AM.

  8. #778
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Ring and head piece swap some sksp for crit which is nice, probably my next in line upgrades. But I still think I'll save tomes for now, see what, if anything, drops from savage in my favor and make adjustments. I just really want to get the most out of the melded stuff I can. 100k a pop for crit IVs is too much to be replaced in 1 week lol
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  9. #779
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    Pheonix Grimmie
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    Famfrit
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    doing above 1600+ on dummy and clear A5S SSS with 2-3 sec left (no food nor pots, didn't pop B4B at the very end, but feel like i should), currently at i217 with Sephirot spear crafted chest, belt and earrings, the rest are midan 220 gears except the eso feet and neck, and a gordian ring (although i haven't melded anything on the midan 220 gears). now, we are hitting enrage in A5S, which 3 of our dps were around 1100-1000 (maybe it's our party comps, we have WHM and AST while WHM was the dps healer and AST was full time healing), but anyhow, i just wondering what i can do better and what's the next piece i should get from lore tomes, or maybe i shud save them up for the weapon since we are actually progressing in Midas now...
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  10. #780
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    Eve Malqir
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    It depends on your current gear, tbh, and whether or not you'll be killing A6S this week. If you ARE killing it and you get the tomestone (or you already have one) the weapon is the obvious choice. If you're not, you should be looking at a few *really good* pieces:

    Legs
    Boots
    Ring

    More or less in that order. Because the Midan Jacket is so sexy, you'll end up wanting the SKS from the Midan Mask to supplement the dearth of it you'll get from upgrading crafted (70 sks) to Midan (0 sks). The legs will always be bis - you'll likely not even consider using the 240 Midan (78 acc / 112 sks...) over the 230 Slips, especially since you'll likely be first or second in line for a Twine, anyway, and those pants should be the first upgrade.

    The boots are kinda debatable, since if you don't need the acc, the Midas ones are way better, but you can meld 18 Crit into them compared to what 12 det? 18 acc? so it's not really as far off as it seems at first, imo.

    Ring is always a safe bet, ears and wrist are pretty safe bets, but you'll be using Midas over them if it drops (until they're 240). The hands are also a pretty okay purchase, but you might wanna be rocking the Midas ones while you have the crafted chest, if you care about keeping approximately 600 skill speed.

    Things to think about.

    The slipstream hat is a really good choice, too, it's just very likely to be replaced by the Midas helm eventually when you down A8S, whereas the slipstream boots, pants, and ring are unlikely to ever leave your character once they're on.
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