How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Khadroth]

http://ffxivrotations.com/iy Potion is obviously optional, but continue to do your opener like that so you can get used to the possibility of using it.

As for upgrades? I'd suggest getting around to overmelding that right side as much as you can. The benefit of many of those pieces will be defeated by not having them full of materia. Otherwise your accuracy (precision) is higher than it needs to be for Sephex, and your crit (critique) seems low.

Beyond that it's hard to help without a video of you actually performing the rotation.

[BalmungAzuresky]

Thanks for the link ! Just tried again on Sephi EX Dummy (without the STR pot) and still getting 1366. Guess I've either messed up somewhere during the rotation or some of my equipment parts are no good.

How much are you supposed to parse as ilvl218 with the rotation you've provided ? I don't want to try to achieve the impossible but if I am far away from what I am supposed to do, I would try to fix it.

My char's stats :

STR : 1139
ACC : 682
CRIT : 829
DET : 493
SS : 686

Picture :

http://s11.postimg.org/4zwdp4qwj/charas.png

I'll try to add DEX materias on the legs and more materias to the right side. How much CRIT do you recommend ?

Thanks again !

[whiskeybravo]

That's a neat little site, never seen it before.

I use this as my opener on Seph Ex: http://ffxivrotations.com/3ub

I don't particularly like using a potion with this opener on seph specifically because it delays 3rd (?) jump until after green/purples go out. If you use it between CT-4th (and yes, you have enough time to adjust to rear or flank, jump, then execute 4th) then it's up right before he starts channeling for the big 180 cleave. If you delay it then you risk getting clipped by the puddle for a vul stack or worse.

But this is also my usual opener without pot.

I haven't quite got the a7s dummy down yet, the couple times I tried I kept messing up the rotation, but even with those mess-ups at 218 w/ seph spear I was around 1620

I'll try to add DEX materias on the legs and more materias to the right side. How much CRIT do you recommend ?

I hope you mean Det

[Khadroth]

...because it delays 3rd (?) jump until after green/purples go out. [...]

I haven't quite got the a7s dummy down yet, the couple times I tried I kept messing up the rotation, but even with those mess-ups at 218 w/ seph spear I was around 1620

Really? I mean it's always tight for me, but I tend to land from that last jump right as the circles go out on people, giving me plenty of time to react. You just sorta have to be spot on with prepping your oGCDs ahead of time I've found. Never really had to adjust my opener for it though (agreed though, not worth bothering with pot on p1).

And yea, I have no idea what exactly you should pulling Azuresky, but I've been capable of 1500+ over 3 minutes since ilvl 210. I'm going to guess there's something wrong with your actual execution (dot uptime, improper cooldown use, etc...). Try giving the Front page a glance through again (particularly the rotation videos posted).

[BalmungAzuresky]

Really? I mean it's always tight for me, but I tend to land from that last jump right as the circles go out on people, giving me plenty of time to react. You just sorta have to be spot on with prepping your oGCDs ahead of time I've found. Never really had to adjust my opener for it though (agreed though, not worth bothering with pot on p1).

And yea, I have no idea what exactly you should pulling Azuresky, but I've been capable of 1500+ over 3 minutes since ilvl 210. I'm going to guess there's something wrong with your actual execution (dot uptime, improper cooldown use, etc...). Try giving the Front page a glance through again (particularly the rotation videos posted).

Yeah, I'll check the front page one more time later today or tomorrow. But if you managed to pull 1500+ since ilvl210, doing 1470 as ilvl218 is no good at all.

Thanks again for all the tips, I'll try and see what I can do.

[JackFross]

Yeah, I'll check the front page one more time later today or tomorrow. But if you managed to pull 1500+ since ilvl210, doing 1470 as ilvl218 is no good at all.

Thanks again for all the tips, I'll try and see what I can do.

Yeah, your dps is pretty low for your item level. It could be a lot better. My opening rotations differ from most people's here, but I like them a lot better, and the calculations I did have said that they're optimal.
No Potion
Potion

Theory behind it - the way I do it (holding BL until the end of the first gcd) gets me 9 gcds of BL, 9 gcds of B4B, and IR wears off after gsk but before FT.

BL, B4B, and IR can all gain an additional GCD if you delay them ~1s into the gcd spin. BL and B4B 8 at the start, 9 at the end. IR is 6 at start, 7 at end. In my rotation, BL covers everything from ID through the second FaC/WT proc. B4B covers Disembowel until the following Heavy Thrust (which, due to being buffed by Disembowel, is actually higher potency than the initial Impulse Drive).

I also did a quick recording and am very upset by it.

I ran the A8S dummy using my no-potion opener and didn't optimize for 3-minutes. 1743, came within 1% of killing it with no food, no potions.

I hope that video can help you see a bit of how my buffs line up as I go through the whole thing. I screwed up Leg Sweep at the start, though, (used it after Disembowel the second time, rather than after Impulse Drive) which almost screwed me out of a Leg Sweep at the end. D:

Gear reference

[BalmungAzuresky]

Haha yeah sorry, I mean DET.

Without potion, I managed to get this (1477) :

http://s8.postimg.org/vgbd9uvsl/stat.png

I will need more training.

[whiskeybravo]

Yea, you need to get that jump off asap or (depending on when you pop B4B exactly) you can't get that next jump in under B4B. At least it seemed that way

[LunaticDefiance]

Hello, I just created an account. The guide has really helped me out with learning the ins and outs of Dragoon. I wish the other classes had something like this.

But anyway I have a quick question. I'm a pretty poor player (I only have around 2-3 mil on me right now) but I was wondering if I could get some advice for gearing up. I'm hesitant to add materia on since I don't have any lvl 60 crafters and that they're relatively expensive. As it stands I know for certain I am outputting waaay too little DPS for my iLvl.

My character is here.

Thanks!

[Kitfox]

Hello, I just created an account. The guide has really helped me out with learning the ins and outs of Dragoon. I wish the other classes had something like this.

But anyway I have a quick question. I'm a pretty poor player (I only have around 2-3 mil on me right now) but I was wondering if I could get some advice for gearing up. I'm hesitant to add materia on since I don't have any lvl 60 crafters and that they're relatively expensive. As it stands I know for certain I am outputting waaay too little DPS for my iLvl.

My character is here.

Thanks!

Do Beastmen dailies for free T4 materia.