Recipe changes in 1.19

[lenn1]

I never ever abandoned a leve. I just think they are not worth the annoyance of battling in this game.

you said you stopped doing them after 1.18. But if you never abandoned them what the hell does 1.18 have to do with you not doing them anymore?

[Lienn]

you said you stopped doing them after 1.18. But if you never abandoned them what the hell does 1.18 have to do with you not doing them anymore?

The battle, the overall sp, the reward...none of them makes battlecraft worth doing.

The magic word is also the forbidden one...i "enjoyed" doing leves because i "enjoyed" battling here. Who would say...i liked the original game with all its flaws and bugs and 3 seconds latency and MW crashing 3 times a day.

[syntaxlies]

The battle, the overall sp, the reward...none of them makes battlecraft worth doing.

the gil was nerfed a bit, the sp is still better then grind and quite god id say. i went from 49-50 in 2 hours. I think saying 1.18 ruined leves for you is kinda a dumb statement if ou dont ahve any facts to back it up. you could just say you dont like doing leves, but i wont have anything to do with 1.18.

[Lienn]

the gil was nerfed a bit, the sp is still better then grind and quite god id say. i went from 49-50 in 2 hours. I think saying 1.18 ruined leves for you is kinda a dumb statement if ou dont ahve any facts to back it up. you could just say you dont like doing leves, but i wont have anything to do with 1.18.

If you think 1.18 has nothing to do then i ask...what was the main change in 1.18 and what are battlecraft leves based on? It's simple...you see i'm not talking in genneral...my problem is strictly with battlecraftleves...i like fieldcraft (so much that they're the ones i'm doing from regional), i liked alot the change at locals...but i can't stand this battle system. I know...it was just the AA...but this "just" was enough for me to start really hating te battle system.

[TonyMontana]

If you think 1.18 has nothing to do then i ask...what was the main change in 1.18 and what are battlecraft leves based on? It's simple...you see i'm not talking in genneral...my problem is strictly with battlecraftleves...i like fieldcraft (so much that they're the ones i'm doing from regional), i liked alot the change at locals...but i can't stand this battle system. I know...it was just the AA...but this "just" was enough for me to start really hating te battle system.

I havent played a battle class since a week after 1.18 came out.

[syntaxlies]

If you think 1.18 has nothing to do then i ask...what was the main change in 1.18 and what are battlecraft leves based on? It's simple...you see i'm not talking in genneral...my problem is strictly with battlecraftleves...i like fieldcraft (so much that they're the ones i'm doing from regional), i liked alot the change at locals...but i can't stand this battle system. I know...it was just the AA...but this "just" was enough for me to start really hating te battle system.

wait now your changing what you said before, i can understand if you dont like the battle system. But, you said leves changed and they didn't really change too much. You said the new leves ruined it for you.

[Lienn]

wait now your changing what you said before, i can understand if you dont like the battle system. But, you said leves changed and they didn't really change too much. You said the new leves ruined it for you, you didnt day anything about the battle system before.

I'm not. Lemme quote myself:

Well, i am annoyed with leves still. I don't do battlecraft since 1.18 and might not do it anymore. Also, i don't rank up battle classes anymore unless someone ask for help with leves or something. Battle itself annoys me since 1.18.

IMO 1.18 damaged the battle system terribly and now 1.19 might do the same to craft. Seems like they want to finish destroying Eorzea before 2012.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...474#post360474

I specified my grudge was about battlecraft from the start. You prolly misread/misunderstood it.

[lenn1]

If you think 1.18 has nothing to do then i ask...what was the main change in 1.18 and what are battlecraft leves based on? It's simple...you see i'm not talking in genneral...my problem is strictly with battlecraftleves...i like fieldcraft (so much that they're the ones i'm doing from regional), i liked alot the change at locals...but i can't stand this battle system. I know...it was just the AA...but this "just" was enough for me to start really hating te battle system.

If you're talking about the auto attack change this has nothing to do with the argument in this thread. We're talking about how it will take longer to level with these changes and people complaining about it just like the leve changes in 1.18. If they changed the crafting system to were you dont have to hit standard synthesis anymore and you only use abilities like Preserve then you can make that comparison.

[Reika]

If you think 1.18 has nothing to do then i ask...what was the main change in 1.18 and what are battlecraft leves based on? It's simple...you see i'm not talking in general...my problem is strictly with battlecraft leves...i like fieldcraft (so much that they're the ones i'm doing from regional), i liked alot the change at locals...but i can't stand this battle system. I know...it was just the AA...but this "just" was enough for me to start really hating te battle system.

I didn't do battle leves for a long while after 1.18, since gathering leves give really good SP now. But ive done a few for a while, and they really are good as long as you use the right difficulty. Difficulty has changed, 5 star is very soloable as long as your id say at least 5 ranks above the leve rank and can heal yourself well, but there are some that will still need to be lowered. Doing them in a group is still better than doing them solo however, even tho SE intends them to be mainly solo. You still recieve SP Bonus after someone esle completes their leve. It may not be much, but after doing 64 leves, it adds up. 8 leves of your own you get full bonus from, and 56 others you get partial bonus from. for R40 leves, the parcial bonus is always above 600 sp. multiply that by 56 (assuming no links) thats 33600 sp just from that at its lowest. It would actually be higher than that. Add the SP from your own leves (assuming no GA and at 5 stars) they are about 5000 each thats 40000 from your own leves, totalling 73600 in leves. with GA they are 7500-8000 each (some leves give more), so that is 97600 sp at the lowest. Granted with links the 'shared' sp will actually be a bit lower, so i would say at least 80000sp - 90000sp for doing 8 leves in a group with GA. r40 faction leves give 8500-9000 for 5star completion, speed, and GA. Oh, then you add the bit of SP for the kills you make and it is a bit more, even tho the amount of kills you make isn't the main determinant in leve SP anymore, it is just a small portion of it.

And if you ever decide to get back to it in a group, you only have to Aspect leves you start or link.

Also.... This thread is about recipe changes damnit

[Fanzeron]

I didn't do battle leves for a long while after 1.18, since gathering leves give really good SP now...

Also.... This thread is about recipe changes damnit

Yeah, you got that right, but you got a nice point here: so far the SP gaining in gathering and crafting it's been good. So in next patch if the number of material will be so drastically reduced, then would it be safe to assume that the SP gaining will be proportional increased? This would be the logical answer but sadly... -sigh-... people tend to make the wrong ones.