id like to see cross class skills removed/changed for next expansion

[Sida]

Here's a thought. You can get specialis job (and only 3 of them) but you get some specialist skills to them that badly emulate the common cross class skills. And you can only go to ex-dungeons and other new content in your specialist jobs. And change of the specialist job takes weeks worth of whatever's the highest tome at the time.

In case someone doesn't notice, yeah that was meant as sarcasm.

[RiceisNice]

Here's a thought. You can get specialis job (and only 3 of them) but you get some specialist skills to them that badly emulate the common cross class skills. And you can only go to ex-dungeons and other new content in your specialist jobs. And change of the specialist job takes weeks worth of whatever's the highest tome at the time.

In case someone doesn't notice, yeah that was meant as sarcasm.

This has no relevance to what the OP is asking for :l

Eitherway, I'd like for them to move away from cross class skills, and instead give the current jobs new skills that feel a bit more individualized but serve the same purpose. Their overall numbers could be tuned to make up for the loss of abilities like raging strikes or blood or blood, they'd have other means of TP management aside from invigorate, and a swiftcast that would themantically match the healers (because twirling a book/astroglobe looks silly)

The ultimate point of cross class skills is to get you to sample other classes and potentially broaden your horizons by doing so. As SE wants to encourage playing multiple classes on one character I don't see the point in removing this system. Especially seeming if you do the Novice training you get 30% bonus on levels below 30 with the ring, on top of all the other bonuses you get now.

You can pretty much sneeze and get level 30, which is where most cross class skills are at or close to.

There are some exceptions (B4B is level 34, and while the process isn't long, its atrocious to be a pre-28 lancer), and the way it is now, you're essentially forced to pick up some key abilties (specifically provoke) if you want to have any shot at an endgame fight. While the game has a focus on being able to as any job, it shouldn't be forced to that degree. At the same time, it doesn't add much depth to job designs and it's a textbook example of illusion of choice, especially when given some cross class skills are straight up useless (such as skull sunder on MNK, DRG and PLD). Me having an understand of DRG also does not help me play a MCH better. It just doesn't. It helps me understand how a DRG plays so I can understand what people are talking about, it does not help me improve my performance as a MCH, or even as another melee for having experience that's exclusive to a DRG

[CosmicKirby]

There are some exceptions (B4B is level 34, and while the process isn't long, its atrocious to be a pre-28 lancer), and the way it is now, you're essentially forced to pick up some key abilties (specifically provoke) if you want to have any shot at an endgame fight. While the game has a focus on being able to as any job, it shouldn't be forced to that degree.

Much less some classes benefit from cross classing drastically more than others.

For example, while MCH gets access to a slew of DPS essential cooldowns, they are also the only physical attacker class who don't get access to Second Wind, and they only have access for a single defensive cooldown (Keen Flurry) which comes at the cost of selective, Feint or Quelling Strikes, both of which are arguably more useful.