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  1. #271
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    It's not catering content, it's expanding variety. Having more quest and more ways to doing things Can only make this game better. It is the severe lack of Content that makes Classes feel like a grind. Especially DoH/L which have literally nothing else to do but grind. Adding more activities will only make the game more enjoyable for everyone. Restricting content serves no purpose.
    Expanding content?

    SE makes Grand Companies - a hub of plenty of new content for players who chose to play battle classes. Battle classes are the primary focus of this game and DoH/L are secondary. That has been established.

    If players want to experience everything the game has to offer, they need to participate in everything the game has to offer. Grand Company issued chocobos are incentive for players to participate in Grand Companies - content they put quite a lot of effort into. Participating in Grand Companies requires battle classes - a system they continue to put great effort into.

    I will say again, SE giving incentive for players to participate in other content is never a bad thing.

    That being said, given the direction of the game, if one finds that they do not enjoy battle content at all, not even enough to rank a single battle class to 25, they will find that this game will be getting more and more boring for them.

    That's basically it for me. It's getting dull repeating the same thing again and again as this discussion only grows stale.

    If there is any player that has no battle class at or above rank 25 that feels the need to discuss this, I would be happy to participate. Players with ranked battle classes discussing this just 'out of principal' are getting nowhere.
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  2. #272
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    It's not catering content, it's expanding variety. Having more quest and more ways to doing things Can only make this game better. It is the severe lack of Content that makes Classes feel like a grind. Especially DoH/L which have literally nothing else to do but grind. Adding more activities will only make the game more enjoyable for everyone. Restricting content serves no purpose.

    Adding Only Content that is exclusive to Battle classes will not fill in the major gaps that bore people in this game.
    so if the dol/doh are bored rank a dow and get a choc. by not having duplicate content it will free the developers to make real content.
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  3. #273
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    @Cyclop: I think it's pretty much pointless trying to argue with them. they're trying to represent a very small portion of the games playerbase who have yet to actually say anything in this thread about not being able to get their chocobos, and these people seem more like they're argueing for the sake of argueing. They want a sandbox game where absolutely anything is possible and that's just not something that's going to happen any time soon.

    @Those complaining: Let's remember that this game is still pretty much in it's beta stage, it hasn't been fully completed to what could be considered a 1.00 version yet, offering a suggestion or saying "it'd be nice to be able to do this..." is constructive to the forum, but you're sounding more like you're making a demand, which would appear selfish and ungratefull to the people who brought you this game in the first place and are trying to help you.

    The dev team are working their asses off around the clock to get this game up and running but it's going to take time, chances are what you want will be put into the game at some point, as well as being able to raise your own chocobo, it's just going to take time, so please just stop argueing and making demands and accept that it may just take a little longer for DoL/DoH to aquire chocobos simply because of the time-frame for patch releases.

    It's better to get a whole bunch of things at regular intervals than have to wait a whole year of no additional content just so you can get everything, right?

  4. #274
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    The materia system is not a "crafter only benefits" system. Those materia go into weapons and armor for DoW just as well as into anything DoH/L. Materia is being implemented to replace the repair system as a means to keep crafters relevant. If gear is never destroyed, and getting your own repairs becomes convenient there may not be much of an economy between DoW and DoH/L.

    Materia joining is a service you would avail yourself of infrequently. Chocobos are a daily.

    Chocobos are transit. They may eventually evolve into more, but even if they do and it's inexorable that everyone's chocobo will be able to fight it shouldn't enable DoL/H to stand on par with DoW unless the chocobo seriously outclasses his DoW owner.

    Stealth abilities are necessary when you can't hurt anything. They are being added so that a gatherer can do their job, or so that a crafter can make a delivery without getting killed. If you already have a beefy sword arm you're good to go. Crafters could be just as well served by redistributing the enemy population so that they don't stand near gathering points or in choke points that must be traversed to meet their assigned objectives. With stealth, though, the enemies can remain and the DoW can have something to fight/do. Everyone wins.

    Rental chocobos are not the equal of personal chocobos. Only being able to go from a town to some point isn't very useful if you have to visit a lot of camps, which leves are likely to have you do.

    DoL/H should *not* be able to participate in every event that a DoW can, not have access to every perk that a DoW can get. I feel, though, that personal transit is not some kind of advanced feature, but a basic one.

    Konachibi's links (thank you, by the way) do seem to make it appear that some other way to acquire chocobos is at least being thought about. If it's just a matter of waiting, that's not so bad. It's vague, though, and I'd like to have a clearer picture.
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    Last edited by Valarian; 09-29-2011 at 05:07 AM. Reason: ei cam't speel geud
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  5. #275
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    No probs ^.^

    I do remember reading a rep post at some point in the forum that mentioned chocobo breeding but couldn't find it anywhere so those were the only two posts I could offer.

  6. #276
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darium View Post
    Someone made the reference that the DoH are getting Materia Crafting to offset the Grand Company Chocobos, so I propose the following suggestion to all main crafters.

    Require anyone who wants you to attach materia for them to have a DoH or DoL class leveled to at least 25.

    That's fair, right?
    i completely agree with you. i'll throw in another if your crafting rank on a craft is not high enough ,that is required to repair, then they should not be able to wear that gear.

    in other words if a gladiators crafting level isn't 40 blacksmith they shouldn't be able to use an item that it took a r50 crafter to make.

    remember question 11......drastic changes that alter the game play.
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  7. #277
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    Wow this really sucks considering they said in the very begining that they intended to make it so players that wanted to make and play a pure crafting and gathering character would have no problems doing so. The rental is NOT the same as having my own btw. I don't get to name it, and it has a 10 minute lifespan. Thats not the same at all.
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  8. #278
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post

    If there is any player that has no battle class at or above rank 25 that feels the need to discuss this, I would be happy to participate. Players with ranked battle classes discussing this just 'out of principal' are getting nowhere.
    I don't have battle class above rank 25. I'm a fisher and alchemist, so do I have the right to fight to get my chocobo? I'm willing to level my r10 something archer, please power level me. Do you have the time for it?
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  9. #279
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher View Post
    I don't have battle class above rank 25. I'm a fisher and alchemist, so do I have the right to fight to get my chocobo? I'm willing to level my r10 something archer, please power level me. Do you have the time for it?
    You do have the right to fight for this. The question now would be would you be willing to level up a battle class to aquire the chocobo, be it doing leves or by being power-levelled?

  10. #280
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    i completely agree with you. i'll throw in another if your crafting rank on a craft is not high enough ,that is required to repair, then they should not be able to wear that gear.

    in other words if a gladiators crafting level isn't 40 blacksmith they shouldn't be able to use an item that it took a r50 crafter to make.

    remember question 11......drastic changes that alter the game play.
    cool, long live dungeon gear.
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