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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwan View Post
    You're wrong again, I level my battle class to be able to farm hide for leatherwork.
    You just stepped on your own feet. You're saying there's no legitimate reason for a crafter to level a battle class and now you're saying there IS a legitimate reason. You're fighting for a right when you already HAVE that right. YOU can already get a chocobo with your battle class, plus seriously when was the last time you played an MMORPG where battle wasn't involved? WHEN was the last time you played a Final Fantasy game where battle wasn't involved?

    Plus as chardrizard said, if you want your own personal chocobo, you have to earn it.

    STOP spouting nonsesence and deal with it already! Get off your soap-box and accept that you may just have to learn to fight so that a grand company, which is designed for battle, will give you one of their chocobos.

    If it REALLY bugs you so badly then bare in mind that craftable chocobo gear will be added into the game in one of the upcoming patches, as will chocobo breeding, so it's not that you'll NEVER be able to get a personal chocobo if you're only a crafter, it's just that implimenting all that additional system is going to take time, and at the moment SE are just trying to get the game running at full speed, they don't need whiners complaining just because their freebie is going to take slightly longer to get because they didn't bother battling for a whole years worth of release.

  2. #172
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    The glaringly obvious part about this is that the game has been consistently billed as "Play as you like." We were told specifically that if we wanted to be full time gatherers or crafters, we could. And by and large the gameplay compliments this. Even to do the storylines you get a companion and non-combat options like Parley to progress through the game. It is silly to not allow dedicated crafters and gatherers options to get chocobos without having to level a fighting job. It is contradictory to the spirit of the game.

    It doesn't matter if it's easy to level a combat job or not. You know what else is easy? Walking instead of using a chocobo. But everyone complained about not being able to use chocobos, so those telling crafters to STFU and level a combat job, kindly take your own advice and let people voice their understandable grievances with this oversight.
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwan View Post
    You're wrong again, I level my battle class to be able to farm hide for leatherwork. As a crafter, one should take crafting more seriously than battle. May I ask, what's wrong with that? Battle class enjoy killing mobs as we enjoy crafting items. They are all the same, just to kill times. Why makes most of all contents to be battle oriented? I'm just standing here and fighting for my right, and what makes it so wrong to you?
    So you'll level a battle craft to 50 to farm leathers but you have a problem doing it to 25 for a chocobo?
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  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aveline View Post
    The glaringly obvious part about this is that the game has been consistently billed as "Play as you like." We were told specifically that if we wanted to be full time gatherers or crafters, we could. And by and large the gameplay compliments this. Even to do the storylines you get a companion and non-combat options like Parley to progress through the game. It is silly to not allow dedicated crafters and gatherers options to get chocobos without having to level a fighting job. It is contradictory to the spirit of the game.

    It doesn't matter if it's easy to level a combat job or not. You know what else is easy? Walking instead of using a chocobo. But everyone complained about not being able to use chocobos, so those telling crafters to STFU and level a combat job, kindly take your own advice and let people voice their understandable grievances with this oversight.
    If you want to be full time gatherers or crafters you can be, no one's taking that away from you. But let me ask you this, say I wanted to 'play as I want' and I wanted to just be a Blacksmith and nothing else, could I get Blacksmith all the way to rank 50? No I couldn't, I'd HAVE to learn MINING to gather ore, in some cases I'd HAVE to learn Goldsmith or Armorsmith to make brass, I'd HAVE to find some form of income to buy materials I couldn't gather, I'd HAVE to find some way to get hold of crystals and shards. So can I play as I want if I just want to be a Blacksmith? No I can't.

    So if you want your own chocobo, you're going to HAVE to learn a battle class.

  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by Konachibi View Post
    You're saying there's no legitimate reason for a crafter to level a battle class and now you're saying there IS a legitimate reason.
    Only leatherwork require battle class. There are many people out there just do Fishing & Alchemy, Mining & Smithing. Why they can't get their own chocobo. They pay as much as you do, and they may spend more time than you to level their characters. Can you explain why they can't get their own chocobo?

  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwan View Post
    Only leatherwork require battle class. There are many people out there just do Fishing & Alchemy, Mining & Smithing. Why they can't get their own chocobo. They pay as much as you do, and they may spend more time than you to level their characters. Can you explain why they can't get their own chocobo?
    Ok, first, can you explain to me why I can't repair my own gear to 100% without levelling a craft?

    Oh wait no you can't.

    Life sucks doesn't it?

  7. #177
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    A player who levels only DoW/M can't repair their own gear, can't make their own gear and try for HQs, and can't participate in materia-craft.

    A player who levels only DoH/L can't participate in instanced raids and other battle content and can't get a personal chocobo.

    A player who does both can partake in everything this game has to offer.

    This is about player choice and related consequences, not discrimination.

    As for the promises of the initial release of the game, people need to learn to let go after a while. This game is not following Tanaka's vision anymore, but Yoshida's vision. It's not even about which was or would have been better. It simply is what it is. First thing Yoshi P did when he was put in charge of the game is confirm with the players that they were up for drastic changes.
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  8. #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by Konachibi View Post
    Ok, first, can you explain to me why I can't repair my own gear to 100% without levelling a craft?

    Oh wait no you can't.

    Life sucks doesn't it?
    but you do pay 2000 gil and get your gear fixed. Pure crafters and gatherers will never get their own chocobo.

  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwan View Post
    but you do pay 2000 gil and get your gear fixed. Pure crafters and gatherers will never get their own chocobo.
    I pay 2000 gil and get my gear fixed to 75%

    You pay 800 gil and get a chocobo to ride that's slightly slower than a personal one.

    And NEVER get their own chocobo??? [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.] It's already been said COUNTLESS TIMES that chocobo breeding will be implimented later on!

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  10. #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by Konachibi View Post
    I pay 2000 gil and get my gear fixed to 75%

    You pay 800 gil and get a chocobo to ride that's slightly slower than a personal one.

    And NEVER get their own chocobo??? [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.] It's already been said COUNTLESS TIMES that chocobo breeding will be implimented later on!

    [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.]
    Why 75%, there are many crafters on street want to contribute and fix your gear. Don't tell me that you really go to NPC fix thing. You see, we crafters are willing to help, and this is what we get for return.
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    Last edited by Baccanale; 09-28-2011 at 04:59 PM. Reason: Quoting content that was edited by Moderator due to violation of Forum Guidelines.

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