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    Player Biggs's Avatar
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    Wow this really sucks considering they said in the very begining that they intended to make it so players that wanted to make and play a pure crafting and gathering character would have no problems doing so. The rental is NOT the same as having my own btw. I don't get to name it, and it has a 10 minute lifespan. Thats not the same at all.
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    This effects about 10 people. My sympathy is busy elsewhere.
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    this thread is just too long of convoluted arguing. the same things are being said over and over.
    DOL/DOH are not real classes but arent being thrown under the bus either because they are getting a super high in demand system called Materia.
    i will not be making anything with materia so i will gladly seek out someones craft profession and i appreciate the efforts of the DOLs because lord knows id rather craft.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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    How about at 1.19 patch, Doh/L get a quest at r25 that grants them to breed the chocobo, It is only available to DoH/L that have pledged allegiance to a Chocobo Breeding Guild. Will pure battle class cry for it? Think before you answer it.
    This sounds like it would only make sense to me and im a battle only player who plans on owning his own Chocobo.
    luckily i think the current lore would be that your Chocobo was issued to you after being raised in the GC stables leaving a whole lore background for DOL/DOH when it comes to actually raising them.

    Perhaps this could be the Herder class already in game (there are wooden banners for this class in.... Thanalan i think?) and they could even sell their super raised on steroids Chocobos to other players!
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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    CRAFTERS HAVE NO RIGHT TO HORSEBIRDS. THEY ARE THE HELP.
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    On the topic of DoH/L being secondary, I think this is intended to combat things like the unengaging main story line. When equal access degrades the content down to teh sux someone has to take the back seat. Dropping the DoL/H is the smartest thing to do here.

    Chocobo riding, though, doesn't become crappy because DoL/H can access them, which is why I see a difference here worth raising a discussion over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valarian View Post
    On the topic of DoH/L being secondary, I think this is intended to combat things like the unengaging main story line. When equal access degrades the content down to teh sux someone has to take the back seat. Dropping the DoL/H is the smartest thing to do here.

    Chocobo riding, though, doesn't become crappy because DoL/H can access them, which is why I see a difference here worth raising a discussion over.
    This^^

    Thank you for bringing some rationality to the conversation. Chocobos are a very fundamental part of a Final Fantasy game, and there is no reason why they couldn't implement an alternative means to obtain a chocobo for DoH/L.

    All they're doing is unnecessarily excluding some of their player base by allowing only fighting classes to obtain personal chocobos. Will DoH/L having a personal chocobo negatively affect the playing experience of any fighting class in any way? No? Will it negatively affect the playing experience of non-fighting classes? Yes? Then why do it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valarian View Post
    On the topic of DoH/L being secondary, I think this is intended to combat things like the unengaging main story line. When equal access degrades the content down to teh sux someone has to take the back seat. Dropping the DoL/H is the smartest thing to do here.

    Chocobo riding, though, doesn't become crappy because DoL/H can access them, which is why I see a difference here worth raising a discussion over.
    Quote Originally Posted by Invalice_Vangaurd View Post
    This^^

    Thank you for bringing some rationality to the conversation. Chocobos are a very fundamental part of a Final Fantasy game, and there is no reason why they couldn't implement an alternative means to obtain a chocobo for DoH/L.

    All they're doing is unnecessarily excluding some of their player base by allowing only fighting classes to obtain personal chocobos. Will DoH/L having a personal chocobo negatively affect the playing experience of any fighting class in any way? No? Will it negatively affect the playing experience of non-fighting classes? Yes? Then why do it?
    You can still Rent a chocobo with any class at level 10. No one is getting excluded. SE is saying: if you want a faster/unlimited Chocobo here is the compromise: Level up a Battle class to 25.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher View Post
    Oh, ic. What a waste of time, seems like that I level up my two classes for nothing. I'm glad that this game is still free, or I'll request a refund for it.
    I am starting to think you are making up you arguments. Either way, I thought you leveled your classes to Craft and Fish, not to ride chocobos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holland View Post
    I am starting to think you are making up you arguments. Either way, I thought you leveled your classes to Craft and Fish, not to ride chocobos.
    Of course I want my chocobo, It is "Fianl Fantasy" that we talk about here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holland View Post
    You can still Rent a chocobo with any class at level 10. No one is getting excluded. SE is saying: if you want a faster/unlimited Chocobo here is the compromise: Level up a Battle class to 25.
    Yes, because renting a chocobo grants you the same benefits, right? The most important of which is being able to summon it anywhere, not merely in town, leaving you without a chocobo once you dismount. Do you have any idea how much more efficiently someone could gather if they did not have to slowly run to every nod? Yet, you cannot use a rental chocobo for this, now can you?

    I am starting to think you are making up you arguments. Either way, I thought you leveled your classes to Craft and Fish, not to ride chocobos.
    I thought you leveled a battle class to fight, not ride chocobos? Oh, but wait, a chocobo will make your experience more convenient? Well, guess what? It will make ours more convenient also. I actually cannot think of a better use for chocobos right now than gathering.

    Please, give me one reason why allowing DoH/L to obtain a personal chocobo would negatively affect you as a battle class?
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