i230 Tome weapons!! So long relic grind...

[Nezerius]

The i230 weapons will take 3 weeks worth of tomes. Sephirot ones will take a few hours worth of effort.

It's also gonna take an unknown amount of weeks of turning in Midan Gears (obtained once a week, from A8) to obtain a High-Capacity Tomestone.

[Arkenne]

But that's for the upgrading to i240, isn't it? Also the 8 tokens from last floor for the i245 midas weapons.

[HorseBoots]

But that's for the upgrading to i240, isn't it? Also the 8 tokens from last floor for the i245 midas weapons.

No he means that, you get a Midian Gear from Midias Normal for clearing A8 once a week. You then turn those in to get a High-Capacity Tomestone which you will need on top of the 3 weeks of tomes to get an Eikon weapon. After that you need Gobdip from A8S to obtain the i240 variant.

To further clarify, anyone expecting the relic to jump instantly to i240 in 3.25 is insane. You can expect your relics to jump to i225 or i235 at best. Don't expect it to be on par with raid weapons until the tail end of this gear tier. Usually a month before 3.4 if you want to follow the Zodiac's pattern on progression.

[FoxyAreku]

i210 can be instant if you have the money for it. (and comes along with daily roulettes)

Funny joke. You can't buy unidentified parts with gil yo. The crafted items are a joke and not even worth mentioning in comparison to how long those stupid things take.

Anyway, this thread is just another topic made by someone who doesn't understand how relics work. Move along folks.

[AsahinaMyLove]

I felt really stupid and empty inside me (again) when I saw Eso weaps will cost 50% lesser of needed Eso tomes >o<;

Its just 5 Low lv dungeon Roulete for 1 lv200 weap then, crazy!

I've spent hours to do those 10 Dungeons to upgrade relic from lv170 to lv200 (not going to lv210, noway)
Not to mention the grind to get those crystals! (Im glad I did all those fates with classes that still needed XP! So its not a waste of time)

[Alahra]

To further clarify, anyone expecting the relic to jump instantly to i240 in 3.25 is insane. You can expect your relics to jump to i225 or i235 at best. Don't expect it to be on par with raid weapons until the tail end of this gear tier. Usually a month before 3.4 if you want to follow the Zodiac's pattern on progression.

Yes, this is also true. I'm expecting i230 or i235. We also know that another update to the questline is coming in 3.3, from Yoshi, so I'm guessing they're going to do two jumps this time, much as they did from Nexus to Zeta (i115 to 125 to 135). The step in 3.3 is probably going to be a massive grind, though.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

To further clarify, anyone expecting the relic to jump instantly to i240 in 3.25 is insane. You can expect your relics to jump to i225 or i235 at best. Don't expect it to be on par with raid weapons until the tail end of this gear tier. Usually a month before 3.4 if you want to follow the Zodiac's pattern on progression.

Unless I missed something, the actual raid drop weapons are i245. That means i240 is within the realm of the possible.

Upgraded tomestones weapons will be i240, but that's because those aren't technically raid weapons. The deep gob dip upgrade item will initially be from Alexander Midas Savage, but will be available from the next Void Ark, whatever it may be.

[HorseBoots]

snip.

Right, I never said that they'll never reach i240. Just that there is no way they will let the relics hit i240 right off the bat in their next jump.

[Ecks007]

Have you managed to miss the point of the relic questline through the entire 2.0 series? It's always the last to upgrade.

Actually Relics started out being the top weapons (aside from Binding Coil which were the best by small degree), and continued to be updated with every increase in tome weapons so that as long as you had your relic weapon up to date it was still the top weapon (aside from Coil weapons).

This is a slap in the face to anyone who even wants to do relics. Why do them when they are made irrelevant? Each time tome weapons are introduced the Relic weapons should have an upgrade to put them right at the same level (or higher, but that's just personal preference because of the grind). I mean really.

Why should we even do relics at this point? It's a more difficult grind and can cost gil as well, when compare to easily obtainable weapons you can get in a few weeks just by capping tomes. And for what? An inferior weapon? I'm sorry, but I am not grinding my relic just to use it as a weapon skin. I want a damn weapon worth this ridiculous grind, and 3.2 removes any worthiness from these weapons now. They are absolutely useless in about 3 weeks after the patch since everyone's going to be able to have an i230 weapon.

Relics in ARR were still damn near top tier as long as you upgraded them because they got updates matching the tome gear. Personally I'm fine if they aren't as strong as Midas Savage weapons (or Upgraded Midas weapons that come from Savage, whichever was the case), but I'll damned if easily obtainable tome weapons are vastly superior to relics. That just doesn't make any damn sense.

Added: I won't be too terribly opposed if A) 3.2x is implemented with Relics update 3 weeks after 3.2. (Though I hope the grind is something other than being like these stupid Unidentified items, oye it's some freaking time consuming crap unless you no-life it) or B) Relics jump to 240 to match upgraded tome weapons.

We're looking at probably 3 more stages to reach that point. Personally, I'd much rather have some stages like the light gathering stage in ARR rather than item collections that require a vast combination of various dailies and other token systems throughout several weeks plus a rather large sum of gil to obtain.

I just got my first Anima weapon completed about 2 weeks ago and am slowly working on my second and have almost made my gil back that was spent on the first (2.5mil - buying base mats, which were bought and crafted probably a week or two before I completed the weapon). I'm now working on my second (and final) Anima weapon. This Unidentified item collection grind is the worst. I would much rather do fates again for an item, even that doesn't take nearly as long.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

This is a slap in the face to anyone who even wants to do relics. Why do them when they are made irrelevant? Each time tome weapons are introduced the Relic weapons should have an upgrade to put them right at the same level (or higher, but that's just personal preference because of the grind). I mean really.

It's hard to say, I can see delaying the relics a week or two because people can technically grind them out in a week or less but 5 weeks does seem a little long to delay the relic quest. We will have to see how many weeks you need to do alexander normal to get the tome weapon first. I just hope we can customize the relic stats soon, like the last one.