Please do something about Living Dead

[Eidolon]

You're missing the whole point again, probably because you never played DRK much, but there is a big issue and if you dont see it, i don't know why you care if gets corrected for those that do.

Then make me see the point. Post reliable sources. Post proof that there is something wrong with living dead other than "I don't like it."

So far, I've gone through what you said, point by point, and disproven it. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt here and not just calling you a troll and moving on - I am asking you to make a point that stands up to evidence provided.

You're worried that it requires coordination from healers, or requires the use of a CD? So does Holmgang, and holmgang is actually substantially more risky because of the fact that it will hold us in place - again, a major issue when doing large pack pulls with untelegraphed AoE's (However, in contrast, in content where it's heavily scripted, it's easier to use if you've memorized the content.)

You say it has less use compared to Holm and Hallowed, but you've yet to give me a single situation wherein the use of Living Dead isn't on-par with the two. Outside of your healers just completely neglecting and ignoring you, there is no reasson they can not, even in VIT (as I listed my VIT tank in my example) top you off within a reasonable amount of 4 GCD's (2.4 sec/ea is faster than the 10 sec time on living dead.)

[Pibz]

You're worried that it requires coordination from healers, or requires the use of a CD? So does Holmgang, and holmgang is actually substantially more risky because of the fact that it will hold us in place - again, a major issue when doing large pack pulls with untelegraphed AoE's (However, in contrast, in content where it's heavily scripted, it's easier to use if you've memorized the content.)

You just went through the issue and refuse to see it, go play DRK for a significant time and come back to me.

The fact that you spell it out, it needs 4* 2.4s casts during 10s (a little less with regens up or if you use cds to heal up the tank.... sigh how is the flaw not painfully obvious) , holmgang needs 1-2 heals just as it is about to end in the extreme case. If you don't see it right in front of your nose i'm not gonna write anymore, as you said move on and stop cluttering the thread.

[Eidolon]

You just went through the issue and refuse to see it, go play DRK for a significant time and come back to me.

The fact that you spell it out, it needs 4* 2.4s casts during 10s (a little less with regens up or if you use cds to heal up the tank.... sigh how is the flaw not painfully obvious) , holmgang needs 1-2 heals just as it is about to end in the extreme case. If you don't see it right in front of your nose i'm not gonna write anymore, as you said move on and stop cluttering the thread.

An interesting thought, and yes, I do feel that holmgang has a good place when there aren't AoE's going out (However, I can not describe to you how many times an AoE has nicked me regardless of incomming healing due to the bind)

Additionally, I listed a healer that was nearly 10 item levels lower - thus weaker healing effectiveness than an equivelent Dark Knight who has a higher item level.

Here's the thing, though. Yes, I listed that a healer, using 4 heals, can get you capped off for Living Dead and in the "Safe" zone. However, what I didn't list was:
- Use of CD's (that same white mage can throw in a Tetra and make it 2-3, crits can make it 1-2 casts of the heal), divine seal will reduce the quantity required, presence of mind, assize. Lustrate, Essential Dignity.HoT's. And the tank's own self-healing and buffs (Living Dead + Conva is nice.) There are far more variables that help a DRK reach that full 100% than there are that help a Warrior who's holmgang'd in place at low HP.

Stop trying to assume that people "Playthe job less than you", heck - even your main class is listed as "Gladiator (PLD)" so should I start acting like you don't play DRK at all? You use the most arbitrary method of refuting an arguement imaginable, without actually considering anyone elses stance or experience on the matter.

[Pibz]

There are far more variables that help a DRK reach that full 100% than there are that help a Warrior who's holmgang'd in place at low HP.

This is just nonsense

And yes healers can use CDS to get rid of it, or they can use just 1-2 cure IIs/adlos/wtv (wars) or nothing (pld) and save their cds for stuff further along the fights. Also if the the cds used crits at an unfortunate timing, gg invulnerability..