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    DeeColon's Avatar
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    Dee Colon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pibz View Post
    Non drk mains (you don't even have it leveled ffs) coming here to tell me they know more about my class than i do, this forums never cease to amaze me.
    Aha he went there, YOU DON'T PLAY MY JOB YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RAAAAAAAA
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    Marauder Lv 30
    Quote Originally Posted by DeeColon View Post
    Aha he went there, YOU DON'T PLAY MY JOB YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RAAAAAAAA
    Yep i did, because experience is a thing, and if you don't have as much you're usually (nearly everytime) less qualified to talk about something. It's how the world works, sorry to disappoint.

    I thought you were going to stop replying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pibz View Post
    Yep i did, because experience is a thing, and if you don't have as much you're usually (nearly everytime) less qualified to talk about something. It's how the world works, sorry to disappoint.
    Like how you're talking about how much harder the skill makes life on healers when you don't have all 3 healers at 60? Right.
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    Quin Raines
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeColon View Post
    Aha he went there, YOU DON'T PLAY MY JOB YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RAAAAAAAA
    YOU DON'T PAY MY SUB!!!!!!!!!
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    Yayadon Yadon
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    I still don't know what the problem with needing to pop CDs to heal Living Dead is, either. In just about any situation where an invincibility CD is required (which is usually during tank busters), I plan in my Benediction anyway. Used correctly, LD + Bene can grant anything between 12 and 18s of "forget about the tank, get in Cleric Stance", outclassing Hallowed Ground by a fair margin. They even have the same CD, they're literally screaming to be used together. DRK/WHM is such a great combination, there's so much synergy between the two jobs in a raid scenario. Plus, it's one of the most unique skills in the game in terms of design and really fits the job, IMO.

    tl;dr: Living Dead is fine, kthxbai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leveva Heavensreader
    A realm where one must apologize for being a victim is no realm worth living in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hall of Novices, on Healer DPS

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    Quote Originally Posted by _slowpoke_ View Post
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    Yes because blowing 2 large cds on one go is such a great idea, and so much better than not using anything (how you say you prepare Benediction for Hallowed is baffling)

    Bye
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    King Canadane
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    Sage Lv 100
    Both tanks and healers need to be aware of incoming damage.
    If you consider just tanks needing to know this and the healers are reactive to it after the fact, I can understand why you'd have concerns. But most healers are proactive in keeping you up and healthy, especially when known large damage is coming.
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    One issue that I do see is considering the following.
    A Paladin can use Hallowed Ground, then use Clemency to restore their HP. Healers need not tend.
    A Warrior can Holmgang and Equilibrium, Second Wind, Thrill of Battle, and maybe even Bloodbath their way back to health. You don't even need all of these listed. Healers may want to tend, but not always needed.
    A Dark Knight uses Living Dead, hits 1HP, and then... healers must tend.

    It's not so much an issue that vit changes will be harder on healers. The issue is that the tank itself has no way of self-recovery from their ultimate defensive ability.
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    A Paladin can use Hallowed Ground, then use Clemency to restore their HP. Healers need not tend.
    This is why HG is 420 second cast instead of 300, the extra 2 minutes is relevant, and makes this balanced. All the classes have tradeoffs and PLDs is damage and minimal MP and TP management tools. DRK has dark arts and blood price, and good AOE utility, PLD has HG.
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Stay on topic or lock the topic. Please.

    Holmgang is only harder if you have no target.
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