New Prelim Tank updates

[Reynhart]

But... Goring Blade was already plenty powerful?...

Considering what Goring Blade "costs" compared to the other two "500+ potency skills", it's not THAT poweful.
Fell Cleave is a one time 500 potency skill, while Goring Blade need its full duration to be only slightly higher.
Scourge is a a DoT that you can put on multiple targets successively, while Goring Blade requires a full combo.

Regarding this, I think it's fair that the potency is now clearly higher.

[Themis]

Not breaking combo is great but I am disappointed Grit/Oaths are still on GCD. (The new skill countdown UI picture shows Grit with a GCD still)

I don't expect this will change any time soon. It seems like the oGCD stance changing is something that is simply to be unique to WAR.

[Shurrikhan]

Considering what Goring Blade "costs" compared to the other two "500+ potency skills", it's not THAT poweful.
Fell Cleave is a one time 500 potency skill, while Goring Blade need its full duration to be only slightly higher.
Scourge is a a DoT that you can put on multiple targets successively, while Goring Blade requires a full combo.

Regarding this, I think it's fair that the potency is now clearly higher.

Especially when you consider that mass-GBing is the only thing we have close to "AoE". Just expected that the dps buffs would come in a different form that this flat ShO change and GB. Like... maybe... an AoE? Or the highly-requested RoH buffs?

It's kind of like how I don't understand why DRK, which has very few TP problems if able to Blood Weapon (and can Unmend at the worst), now has nearly the TP consumption of a Monk if he doesn't use his enmity combos. It just seems strange and unnecessary. (Or why NIN, which consumes less TP than a Monk, was given further TP reductions while Monk was not.)

(Delirium/Souleater combo = total 170 TP. Monk combos will equal 160/170. Same as Goring Blade, but without a DoT holding it back to every third combo.)

[SpookyGhost]

also: Monk needed more dps?

MNK/PLD/WAR should be a pretty interesting combo. Trade Reprisal for 10% STR down and DV, essentially. Can't wait to see how group comps in progression play out.

[Torunya]

me to , PLD will be always my main class in FFXIV ^^

Ditto. Even through the dark times, I'll always be faithful to Paladin! This does indeed make me very happy and excited. ^____^/

[Shurrikhan]

MNK/PLD/WAR should be a pretty interesting combo. Trade Reprisal for 10% STR down and DV, essentially. Can't wait to see how group comps in progression play out.

Monk's already a well-requested DPS, though, especially if it has an especially high (skill-gap or ilvl) lead over the other DPS. The redundancy of the INT down debuff between Del and DK was usually too small of an issue to forgo their individually high dps. (Though at the same time, I wonder why they still haven't changed Delirium to allow it to at least be present at the same time as Dragon Kick, without stacking.)

Monk still gets no TP adjustments, relying on between-phase Purification, or QoL changes. Same to DRG, which at 2.4 GCD, is a substantial TP hog itself.

So many of these changes (see: AST) just seem really half-assed. A lot of them I'm grateful for, but just, as a whole... kind of sketchy.

[SpookyGhost]

By "MNK/PLD/WAR should be a pretty interesting combo", I mean because of the PLD buffs and the supposed change to a more defensive meta, we'd see an interesting tradeoff with Reprisal vs RoH + DV + Shield + Cover(? Maybe?). MNK's DPS increase just makes it a stronger pick on top of bringing Mantra and the possibility of soaking hard hits w/ Fist of the Earth.

[Khalithar]

Good changes. We'll have to see how it stacks up with the new damage formulas.

[Raim]

Is no one concerned that they chose to not consider helping in the form of magic resistance, TP management, and AoE damage? The main thing that DRK offered over PLD for the MT position this patch was a better toolkit for magic damage. If Midas is magic heavy this could repeat. Reducing TP costs by 10 isn't going to solve their longevity problem over very long fights. Nothing was changed about their abysmal AoE or any kind of synergy between Flash and Circle of Scorn? Yes a few 10-20 increases to potency are nice but the class has more fundamental issues that permit them from getting raid spots and desirable groups besides their damage output.

[Reynhart]

Is no one concerned that they chose to not consider helping in the form of magic resistance, TP management, and AoE damage?

AoE damage will probably still be an issue.
Reducing the TP cost of Fast Blade is a huge improvement over TP management, and we'll probably replenish more of it now that stance dancing and self healing is eased.

As for magic damage, it's more a flaw in the raid design than in the end, probably intended to put the brand new DRK in a better spotlight. I suppose Midas and the next raid will be much more balanced around Physical vs Magical.