Why can't you see your stats when you finish dung/raids and trials?

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Some actions also reduce DPS so you're not going to see those either. More damage is taken, healer has to work insanely hard due to *avoidable* damage being taken.

If a DPS does this, I will tell them to either stop it or I will stop healing them. Dead DPS = zero damage, and most DPS players understand this equation. It's that simple.

There's still no argument against parsers as no one has - or can, for that matter - conclusively show that parsers are causing (more) toxic behavior (or are even very loosely correlated with it). It doesn't even matter, because you don't solve elitist and/or toxic behavior by prohibiting tools whose primary - and only - function is to gather information and present it to you in a useful manner.

If you're interested in a less toxic community, demand more rules against asinine behavior and better enforcement of the existing ones. Stop tolerating assholes in general. The reason many online communities (as well as offline ones) have problems with rampant toxic behavior is usually because a) assholes and their behavior are tolerated and b) there are no or not enough rules which are c) not (adequately) being enforced.

I highly doubt people will ignore mechanics and/or take more damage to get the top of the charts. People already parse, and people don't do this. It's illogical. If you are going to take more damage and make things harder, the run will go slower - two major things will come from this. 1. You'll be in there longer, which few people want and 2. you're DPS will suffer as you'll do the same damage over a longer period of time.

Yes and no. There's some special cases where it actually does make sense for some jobs to ignore certain mechanics to push out more DPS, but if and only if they have consulted with the healers beforehand.

For example, it's a nontrivial DPS gain for a BLM to ignore the first set of AoEs (the Meteorain) in Thordan Ex, because with Stoneskin, deployed Adlo, and Manawall (or -ward, I don't remember which one), they will easily survive the impact and can be healed with a single Regen.

As you can see, this is stuff that almost exclusively happens during highly organized group play. You don't just do this randomly in DF groups, or your healer will get very mad at you.

[Kaurie]

Yes and no. There's some special cases where it actually does make sense for some jobs to ignore certain mechanics to push out more DPS, but if and only if they have consulted with the healers beforehand.

For example, it's a nontrivial DPS gain for a BLM to ignore the first set of AoEs (the Meteorain) in Thordan Ex, because with Stoneskin, deployed Adlo, and Manawall (or -ward, I don't remember which one), they will easily survive the impact and can be healed with a single Regen.

As you can see, this is stuff that almost exclusively happens during highly organized group play. You don't just do this randomly in DF groups, or your healer will get very mad at you.

I think you misunderstood what I was suggesting. I was suggesting that in DF content with a scoreboard, people are not more likely to decide that their DPS is more important than mechanics - as it's illogical. However, if they do, they're probably already bad players.

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I think you misunderstood what I was suggesting. I was suggesting that in DF content with a scoreboard, people are not more likely to decide that their DPS is more important than mechanics - as it's illogical. However, if they do, they're probably already bad players.

Fair enough, I agree with that.