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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    Because it fosters elitism and elitism and more elitism and....oh yeah, elitism. Plus you should under no circumstances be able to see other people's numbers. If they did put a parser in game it should show your own info only.
    Let's foster bad play instead. Because, you know, "I pay for my sub, I play however I see fit". This is exactly how I see this comment, and the likes of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    Let's foster bad play instead. Because, you know, "I pay for my sub, I play however I see fit". This is exactly how I see this comment, and the likes of it.
    ikr, getting stuck with bad players who can't clear content 30+ ilvls above it fosters happy times and flowers. But Seraph is a troll on these matters, so don't worry to much about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    Let's foster bad play instead. Because, you know, "I pay for my sub, I play however I see fit". This is exactly how I see this comment, and the likes of it.
    Thanks for the laugh. Cause you know, being against parsers must automatically mean I want to foster bad play. (<--That was sarcasm btw) But people do have the right to play however they want and everyone needs to just get the hell over it. If they want to go into a dungeon and ice mage all day get the hell over it. You wanna pay their sub?! Then you can tell them how to play. People wanna use crafting gear in dungeons? Get the hell over it. Pay their sub and then you can complain. You went into a group with randoms. You knew there are people out there who play this way that you might get paired with, and you were given options to deal with such people. Vote kick / leave the duty / vote abandon. I'm really left wondering if this is truly as rampant a problem as people make it out to be because I almost NEVER run into the kinds of horror story situations people post about on these forums. In game parsers will do absolutely nothing to improve the game and only legalize the harassment of people with low numbers since they wouldn't be able to report people for calling them out anymore. You think that will fix the problem? If anything it will make the rift wider. I already see so many "Big number drunk" parser people with 3rd party illegal ones. I don't wanna think how bad it would get if SE actually supported parsing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    Thanks for the laugh. Cause you know, being against parsers must automatically mean I want to foster bad play. (<--That was sarcasm btw) But people do have the right to play however they want and everyone needs to just get the hell over it. If they want to go into a dungeon and ice mage all day get the hell over it. You wanna pay their sub?! Then you can tell them how to play. People wanna use crafting gear in dungeons? Get the hell over it. Pay their sub and then you can complain. You went into a group with randoms. You knew there are people out there who play this way that you might get paired with, and you were given options to deal with such people. Vote kick / leave the duty / vote abandon. I'm really left wondering if this is truly as rampant a problem as people make it out to be because I almost NEVER run into the kinds of horror story situations people post about on these forums. In game parsers will do absolutely nothing to improve the game and only legalize the harassment of people with low numbers since they wouldn't be able to report people for calling them out anymore. You think that will fix the problem? If anything it will make the rift wider. I already see so many "Big number drunk" parser people with 3rd party illegal ones. I don't wanna think how bad it would get if SE actually supported parsing.
    It's your sub, but the sub and time of the 3 or the 7 other people in the group holds more importance, and rightly so. You wanna purposely play bad? No one should deal with that and "get over it", I'll be glad to kick you instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    I'm really left wondering if this is truly as rampant a problem as people make it out to be because I almost NEVER run into the kinds of horror story situations people post about on these forums.
    I would imagine it's a little harder to run into these problems when you're the one creating them, like the time you went into VA as a Lancer and spammed Chaos Thrust.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    In game parsers will do absolutely nothing to improve the game and only legalize the harassment of people with low numbers since they wouldn't be able to report people for calling them out anymore
    "We interrupt this broadcast to bring you a breaking news story about misinformation and fear-mongering."

    Is he a troll? Pls tell me he's a troll. I'd probably respect them more at this point if they were a troll.
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    Last edited by Odett; 02-22-2016 at 02:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    It's your sub, but the sub and time of the 3 or the 7 other people in the group holds more importance, and rightly so. You wanna purposely play bad? No one should deal with that and "get over it", I'll be glad to kick you instead.

    I would imagine it's a little harder to run into these problems when you're the one creating them, like the time you went into VA as a Lancer and spammed Chaos Thrust.


    "We interrupt this broadcast to bring you a breaking news story about misinformation and fear-mongering."

    Is he a troll? Pls tell me he's a troll. I'd probably respect them more at this point if they were a troll.

    If you kicked them you should already be over it, they are gone.

    I have gone into a level 50+ duty as a class a grand total of 4 times since I started playing and haven't destroyed the run in any of those cases. A couple of them I actually got comms cause people were apparently impressed that a conjurer could heal so well in Alexander so no I don't create this problem.

    Not really fear mongering if people already harass others about their numbers. The only reason it's not as wide spread now is because they can be reported and banned for mentioning numbers / parsers in game. Not really a stretch of logic to assume it would get worse if parsers were legal.

    No I'm not a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    I have gone into a level 50+ duty as a class a grand total of 4 times since I started playing and haven't destroyed the run in any of those cases. A couple of them I actually got comms cause people were apparently impressed that a conjurer could heal so well in Alexander so no I don't create this problem.
    Yeah, I'm sure that the other healer in the group had absolutely nothing to do with your success. If you don't see how you're creating problems by unequipping a job crystal and spamming one skill, or purposely shooting yourself in the foot by not having access to Presence of Mind, Regen, Divine Seal, Benediction, Asylum, Assize, and Tetra, then I'm just not going to bother replying to you at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    Yeah, I'm sure that the other healer in the group had absolutely nothing to do with your success. If you don't see how you're creating problems by unequipping a job crystal and spamming one skill, or purposely shooting yourself in the foot by not having access to Presence of Mind, Regen, Divine Seal, Benediction, Asylum, Assize, and Tetra, then I'm just not going to bother replying to you at this point.
    Actually the other healer spent a few minutes on the floor and had to be raised twice by me so....yeah.

    Also would like to point out the only time I ever spammed a single skill was on the lancer void ark run and only during the final boss. Not really a justification, just not as bad as you make it out to be either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    It's your sub, but the sub and time of the 3 or the 7 other people in the group holds more importance, and rightly so. You wanna purposely play bad? No one should deal with that and "get over it", I'll be glad to kick you instead.


    I would imagine it's a little harder to run into these problems when you're the one creating them, like the time you went into VA as a Lancer and spammed Chaos Thrust.


    "We interrupt this broadcast to bring you a breaking news story about misinformation and fear-mongering."

    Is he a troll? Pls tell me he's a troll. I'd probably respect them more at this point if they were a troll.
    Yes on all points made here. I decided they were a troll awhile back, the stuff they say is just out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    It's your sub, but the sub and time of the 3 or the 7 other people in the group holds more importance, and rightly so.
    Not to me. But hey 3.2 will fix this for all you people by allowing pre made groups for all roulettes. Can't wait to farm commendations by going into dungeons as healer or tank
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silica-chan View Post
    Not to me. But hey 3.2 will fix this for all you people by allowing pre made groups for all roulettes. Can't wait to farm commendations by going into dungeons as healer or tank
    Are you saying you need all the other tanks and healers to leave so that you can get comms? Are you not doing well enough right now? Is it one of those, "It's not about upping my quality, its about lowering the quality of everyone else so I seem better." things?
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