The Mentoring Requirements... *Rant Style*

[Judah_Brandt]

Holy crap! Well, er...in that case...well, in that case you are in agreement with me, aren't you? Or I'm in agreement with you? Bah, the semantics...

Either way...whoops...and I pride myself on being fluent in sarcasm...le sigh.

I knew I should've put the entire thing in italics. Lmao if someone actually called themselves a super-casual ha ha.

[alimdia]

Warning: made up statistics

80% (or X%) of ppl that meet the requirements will be a good mentor.
50% (or Y%) of ppl that don't meet the requirements will be a good mentor.
X will always > Y
We will rather have 1-X bad mentors then 1-Y bad mentors.

Mentoring req is binary. A line has to be drawn somewhere. Instead of crying that you don't meet the reqs how about go meet them. If u cbf then it shows that u cbf mentoring.

[alimdia]

Warning: made up statistics

80% (or X%) of ppl that meet the requirements will be a good mentor.
50% (or Y%) of ppl that don't meet the requirements will be a good mentor.
X will always > Y
We will rather have 1-X bad mentors then 1-Y bad mentors.

Mentoring req is binary. A line has to be drawn somewhere. Instead of crying that you don't meet the reqs how about go meet them. If u cbf then it shows that u cbf mentoring.

[Ehr]

I honestly think the requirements to become a mentor should have required an application system, but that would be way to much work for SE between all the servers. And I'm not being sarcastic. My biggest fear with this system are people who do meet the requirements but don't really actually know how to play the roles effectively and give inaccurate advice or harmful players who aren't interested in helping the new players and are just there for the achievements/rewards. As much as I think an application of sorts would be a very good thing for the mentor system it doesn't seem like a probable one given the amount of servers and size of the player base.

[Odett]

I honestly think the requirements to become a mentor should have required an application system, but that would be way to much work for SE between all the servers. And I'm not being sarcastic. My biggest fear with this system are people who do meet the requirements but don't really actually know how to play the roles effectively and give inaccurate advice or elitists who are jerks to the new players and are just there for the achievements/rewards. As much as I think an application of sorts would be a very good thing for the mentor system it doesn't seem like a probable one given the amount of servers and size of the player base.

Your arguments lose a bit of weight with terms like "elitists", just saying. Hopefully, you'll get no achievements or physical rewards out of the mentor system. Perhaps like that, we'll only get people who truly wish to help, and not those with ulterior motives.

[Jetstream_Fox]

Yeah, we read, and if you go back a few pages, you'll understand why leveling a healer is important in the grand scheme of things, that way we don't have to regurgitate what we've already posted. Your posts still yell "the requirements are stupid because I don't meet them!" If you don't meet the reqs. now, just go level up a healer to 60. It's not like you'll be locked out of being a mentor if you don't meet the requirements on day one.

You obviously didn't read because as I stated being a level 60 isn't the reason why I think this system is going to fail. It's the fact that a player who doesn't have all the 3 areas at 60 CAN be more knowledgeable on the basics of this game such as editing the hotbar in the settings, text customizations, display customizations and even overall helpfulness. Not one of those things I just listed is granted to you by level 60 and not everyone at level 60 even knows about some of those features, such as the extended crossbar function for the ps4. But you and everyone who thinks having a level 60 in all three categories means you're the most knowledgeable about the basics of this game just go ahead and keep thinking that.

[Legion88]

words

No one stops you from mentoring without the system. All you yell all the time is "I want to be an official mentor and the requirements suck cause i don't met them!". There is no lockout from the activity it is a lockout from an optional system which makes it easier.
You have to study if you want to be a teacher.

[Ehr]

Your arguments lose a bit of weight with terms like "elitists", just saying. Hopefully, you'll get no achievements or physical rewards out of the mentor system. Perhaps like that, we'll only get people who truly wish to help, and not those with ulterior motives.

Should've worded it better, but I couldn't think of anything else. My word-choice has never been very good. I basically just meant players that aren't interested in helping and are only after rewards. Also this interview states that there are achievements tied to the mentor roulette, it's the third question. I really don't think it should have rewards either though, someone should be a mentor simply because they want to be one and to help newer players, they shouldn't need some title or achievement. But that's just my opinion.

[Toguro]

What he's trying to say is what I've been trying to say before. The mentoring requirements are built around the Heavensward world rather than the A Realm Reborn world which makes the requirements bad. He has a Lv50 healer. That's enough to know all of the basics of ARR. Remember as I said earlier in this thread, the "basics" that everyone keeps repeating(basic leveling fundamentals) were built and established in ARR. But players need to go through the "fairly" long grind from 50 to 60 which has nothing to do with teaching basics because all of the tests, fundamentals, and mechanics of the game are packed in 2.x not 3.0 which reuses a lot of mechanics.

If you were a lv50 Tank, DPS, and Healer for 2 years or since 2.x release, what more have you learned about fundamentals to teach newbies as 60? Only 5 (easy)dungeons from 51-59 and 5 abilities that in no way effect basic fundamentals. Lv60 mentoring? Yeah definitely need 60s. Fact is, if were playing so long with these classes leveled, you never needed to be 60 to teach fundamentals to new players.

[Toguro]

Again the thing to remember is the mentor system is simply there for new players to identify and connect with vets inclined to be helpful. Nothing is stopping anyone from helping now or after it is implemented

That's everything right there. You can't go around saying in shout "Looking to help people please /shout or send /tell", "Anyone need help? Please /shout or send /tell". Out of all my time of playing I have never seen newbies go in chats and just ask for help. Not including hunts, events, etc. What I mean is I never see anyone ask for things like "How do I get a chocobo?" "How do I get a Grand Company?" "How do I <insert>" in /shout, /say, etc. But I see these questions tons of times in a day. Where? In my /fc chat. Where players in need can ask directly.

The people you say to look for and help are the ones preventing people from helping. The mentor system gives these players the option to talk directly to people that are there TO help them.