The Mentoring Requirements... *Rant Style*

[Toguro]

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You're scenario makes sense except it is completely irrelevant to mentoring as those people are only exposed to the basic fundamentals shown to them with in the first 40hrs.




and the dungeons lv15-29 barely have mechanics to worry about.

[MeridaQ]

Again the thing to remember is the mentor system is simply there for new players to identify and connect with vets inclined to be helpful. Nothing is stopping anyone from helping now or after it is implemented. As for the community negativity, your community is what you make it. Your community are the people who stand by you, the joy you have with them will grow and you can be happy within your realm. If you want to spread that take action, I am starting the Intermediate Hall on Ultros tonight, to help people transition from 20-HW. The only requirement is the desire to help/learn. I welcome others to do the same on your respective servers.

[Toguro]

Again the thing to remember is the mentor system is simply there for new players to identify and connect with vets inclined to be helpful. Nothing is stopping anyone from helping now or after it is implemented

That's everything right there. You can't go around saying in shout "Looking to help people please /shout or send /tell", "Anyone need help? Please /shout or send /tell". Out of all my time of playing I have never seen newbies go in chats and just ask for help. Not including hunts, events, etc. What I mean is I never see anyone ask for things like "How do I get a chocobo?" "How do I get a Grand Company?" "How do I <insert>" in /shout, /say, etc. But I see these questions tons of times in a day. Where? In my /fc chat. Where players in need can ask directly.

The people you say to look for and help are the ones preventing people from helping. The mentor system gives these players the option to talk directly to people that are there TO help them.

[MeridaQ]

The intermediate hall will be a LS

[MeridaQ]

You, ah, didn't seem to get that I was being sarcastic and making a joke did you.

Lol sarcasm is hard over forums at times.

[alimdia]

Warning: made up statistics

80% (or X%) of ppl that meet the requirements will be a good mentor.
50% (or Y%) of ppl that don't meet the requirements will be a good mentor.
X will always > Y
We will rather have 1-X bad mentors then 1-Y bad mentors.

Mentoring req is binary. A line has to be drawn somewhere. Instead of crying that you don't meet the reqs how about go meet them. If u cbf then it shows that u cbf mentoring.

[alimdia]

Warning: made up statistics

80% (or X%) of ppl that meet the requirements will be a good mentor.
50% (or Y%) of ppl that don't meet the requirements will be a good mentor.
X will always > Y
We will rather have 1-X bad mentors then 1-Y bad mentors.

Mentoring req is binary. A line has to be drawn somewhere. Instead of crying that you don't meet the reqs how about go meet them. If u cbf then it shows that u cbf mentoring.

[Ehr]

I honestly think the requirements to become a mentor should have required an application system, but that would be way to much work for SE between all the servers. And I'm not being sarcastic. My biggest fear with this system are people who do meet the requirements but don't really actually know how to play the roles effectively and give inaccurate advice or harmful players who aren't interested in helping the new players and are just there for the achievements/rewards. As much as I think an application of sorts would be a very good thing for the mentor system it doesn't seem like a probable one given the amount of servers and size of the player base.

[Odett]

I honestly think the requirements to become a mentor should have required an application system, but that would be way to much work for SE between all the servers. And I'm not being sarcastic. My biggest fear with this system are people who do meet the requirements but don't really actually know how to play the roles effectively and give inaccurate advice or elitists who are jerks to the new players and are just there for the achievements/rewards. As much as I think an application of sorts would be a very good thing for the mentor system it doesn't seem like a probable one given the amount of servers and size of the player base.

Your arguments lose a bit of weight with terms like "elitists", just saying. Hopefully, you'll get no achievements or physical rewards out of the mentor system. Perhaps like that, we'll only get people who truly wish to help, and not those with ulterior motives.

[Ehr]

Your arguments lose a bit of weight with terms like "elitists", just saying. Hopefully, you'll get no achievements or physical rewards out of the mentor system. Perhaps like that, we'll only get people who truly wish to help, and not those with ulterior motives.

Should've worded it better, but I couldn't think of anything else. My word-choice has never been very good. I basically just meant players that aren't interested in helping and are only after rewards. Also this interview states that there are achievements tied to the mentor roulette, it's the third question. I really don't think it should have rewards either though, someone should be a mentor simply because they want to be one and to help newer players, they shouldn't need some title or achievement. But that's just my opinion.