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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlatantPyre View Post
    words.

    I'm not fully convinced by this. Yes, you got your bad apples here and there, but the so called toxicity doesn't seem to kick in (for me anyway) until you start doing 24 man raids or 8 man raids; 4 player content seems to be a lot more forgiving in terms of mistakes you can make whereas content with 8 or 24 players tend to punish mistakes a lot more and it's more apparent since one or two people screwing up can cost the whole raid. Regardless, I don't buy into your doomsday scenario and it's just pure hyperbole over the "what ifs". Mentors that decide to bully new players can get reported for harassment and those are taken VERY seriously by the GMs.

    If this is going to be as bad as you say, then why hasn't it happened sooner? You'd think with all this talk about elitists bullying newbies or lesser skilled players that there'd be a mass exodus and drastic drop in sub numbers already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
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    Not doomsday. I simply meant that this system will have this problem. Also, you are talking about DF trolls. Right now, the reason that's the only place you run into them is because that's where they're playing. I run into them in all content somewhat regularly however, and have heard others say the same. It's just par for the course. Now, I don't know if there's some underlying need for trolls to harass new players; of course we haven't seen that, why would we when they have other avenues? I wasn't talking specifically about trolls, however (though I'm sure many will see this as an ample opportunity to abuse people), I was talking about elite mentality, which for the most part is something you don't see until late game right now. Sure, some would say that's just a different brand of troll, but I think "elites" don't intend to mess with people - they just think they're God's gift to man, and should be treated as such. Many of these people will have access to the mentor system, and they may see it as a soapbox...it only takes one to discourage new players.
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    Player Judah_Brandt's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlatantPyre View Post
    Snip.
    You, ah, didn't seem to get that I was being sarcastic and making a joke did you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judah_Brandt View Post
    You, ah, didn't seem to get that I was being sarcastic and making a joke did you.
    Holy crap! Well, er...in that case...well, in that case you are in agreement with me, aren't you? Or I'm in agreement with you? Bah, the semantics...

    Either way...whoops...and I pride myself on being fluent in sarcasm...le sigh.
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    Player Judah_Brandt's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlatantPyre View Post
    Holy crap! Well, er...in that case...well, in that case you are in agreement with me, aren't you? Or I'm in agreement with you? Bah, the semantics...

    Either way...whoops...and I pride myself on being fluent in sarcasm...le sigh.
    I knew I should've put the entire thing in italics. Lmao if someone actually called themselves a super-casual ha ha.
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