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  1. #251
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasely View Post
    As players, it's not our job to make new and interesting content for this game. That's the role of the developers. Why would anyone expect a single player to do the job of hundreds of people?
    They try making interesting new content, but it doesn't always catch on. The Wolves' Den, Frontlines, The Gold Saucer, Beast Tribe quests, Exploratory Missions, Side Story quests, you name it. Some of them caught on, some of them got added onto in later patches, some of them became a part of the standard patch formula, and some were thrown aside and forgotten about.
    While the majority of each patch follow a set formula (most of which can still be considered "new content" for a lot of people), there is always something new as well. Whatever new things they add are not always well received by the playerbase though, and they have no way of knowing in advance how it will be received, since they haven't tried it before.
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  2. #252
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    your posts scream "I don't know what I want!"
    To be fair, they are not wrong. It is great when people can bring forth great ideas and suggestions for the game, but not every post on the forum needs to be one. Sometimes a simple "I don't like this" or "I did like this" is all the devs need for feedback.
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  3. #253
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mholito View Post
    They try making interesting new content, but it doesn't always catch on. The Wolves' Den, Frontlines, The Gold Saucer, Beast Tribe quests, Exploratory Missions, Side Story quests, you name it. Some of them caught on, some of them got added onto in later patches, some of them became a part of the standard patch formula, and some were thrown aside and forgotten about.While the majority of each patch follow a set formula (most of which can still be considered "new content" for a lot of people), there is always something new as well. Whatever new things they add are not always well received by the playerbase though, and they have no way of knowing in advance how it will be received, since they haven't tried it before.
    They make half-done content people enjoy and fail to follow-through with it.
    - There are no regular updates for any existing saucer games.
    - This is not a PvP game. It just feels tacked-on in order to appease a small player-group. Which would be fine if they updated it regularly and balanced jobs properly.
    - Sidestory quests are fun, but they're oneshots and usually take less than an hour to complete. Again, they've started multiple sidequest storylines and have failed to continue any of them in a timely manner.

    SE's problem isn't a lack of worthwhile content. they have plenty of things players want. They just post the skeletal framework and forget it exists until the players do, too.
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    Last edited by Chasely; 02-17-2016 at 08:12 AM.

  4. #254
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pomelo View Post
    Aww, this means they will stay race locked too >.<
    My fem roe woulda loved the Miqo Skirt..oh well xD
    yeah bummer I wanted to wear the Elf one on my au ra...
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  5. #255
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    I wish they'd talk about the dye able Allagan gear...please don't be class locked..more glamour options...
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  6. #256
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasely View Post
    They make half-done content people enjoy and fail to follow-through with it.
    - There are no regular updates for any existing saucer games.
    - This is not a PvP game. It just feels tacked-on in order to appease a small player-group. Which would be fine if they updated it regularly and balanced jobs properly.
    - Sidestory quests are fun, but they're oneshots and usually take less than an hour to complete. Again, they've started multiple sidequest storylines and have failed to continue any of them in a timely manner.

    SE's problem isn't a lack of worthwhile content. they have plenty of things players want. They just post the skeletal framework and forget it exists until the players do, too.
    - They have added more cards and npcs for triple triad every patch so far, and they are most likely gonna add more minigames to the Gold Saucer in the future.
    - Funny how you dismiss the pvp because of the relatively small part of the playerbase that participates in it, considering the fact that the amount of players that are unhappy with the current patch formula is most likely smaller than the actually pvp fanbase.
    And they are doing balancing for pvp. There is a reason why certain abilities work differently in pvp and that we have additional abilities for it as well. You might not agree with the way they are balancing it, but they are attempting to keep it somewhat balanced.
    - As of right now, the only side story quest I feel has been neglected for too long is the Postmoogle quests. I am also slightly worried that they might forget about the Doman Adventurers' Guild guests, but I have not given up hope yet.
    As for the length of the side story quests, I would obviously always like them to be longer, but they are a good distraction from the more grindy aspects of the game nevertheless.

    I echo what other people have said before me, and this goes for everyone: There is not a lack of new content being added to the game, there is merely a lack of new content that suits your tastes. You are not required to like everything Square Enix adds, and they are not required to add exactly what you want them to.
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  7. #257
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    They have not added new cards and NPCs in every single patch. They added some with Heavensward, and tweaked a few NPCs. Still, they haven't added any new worthwhile content for the game.
    - No new rules.
    - no new tournaments in different areas, etc.

    Also, what about Chocobo racing? There hasn't been a single update for that since it was released.
    - Why are there no server leader boards, or new racing areas based-on the expansion zones?
    - When are they going to fix the completely random way stats are distributed while breeding? Basing the stats off the grandparents, rather than the parents was an awful idea.
    - Why can we still not trade cards/mating rights with friends?
    - Why can't we queue for Chocobo racing outside that single room yet?
    - When are the going to fix the random lag which causes item chests to not appear for players?

    I did not completely dismiss PvP. warrior has reigned supreme in pvP for months, now. They're unstoppable. SE knows this, but rather than fixing it during one of their maintenance queues, they left them drastically overpowered. Will they be nerfed? Most assuredly. Does it look like SE's simply ignoring the problem? Yes.

    There's also the riddle questline, which people loved.

    No one said there's a lack of new content. People are complaining it's the same old, tired tredmill. if SE wasn't so keen on cometely invalidating people's work every few months they'd have time to expand the world and work on things players actually want to do.

    Let me reiterate this because you don't seem to be grasping what I've said from the start of this conversation: It's not that SE fails to create content. They're failing to nurture the content they do have while tossing more unfinished ideas at us every few patches. People aren't upset because we're getting 0 content every patch. We're upset because SE isn't taking the time to fully realize the things we do have, and enjoy. My favorite parts of the game involve side quests and the gold saucer. Some people enjoy PvP; and that's okay, too. We all just want SE to really work on the aspects of the game we do enjoy instead of pushing it aside right after it's implemented.

    There's nothing wrong with complaining. There's nothing wrong with saying, "I'm not happy with the way things are." Just like there's nothing wrong with being happy with the way things are. the people here don't have to articulate every tiny reason they're not happy and give detailed solutions to all of their grievances for said grievances to be real.

    Just take the echo for instance. It was a huge plot device up until 2.2, where it became a generic, 'Primals can't enthrall you,' device. Why did we stop enterring people's pasts? Why did Moenbryda need to die when we could create spears of light to banish/destory Ascians without that device? We possessed the echo even without the crystals' powers. Even if that was the case and we did need the crystals, we never use it in the expansion, even though we've already collected a ton of them again. that's jsut one of many examples of SE having an interesting aspect to the game and completely dropping it for no apparent reason.
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    Last edited by Chasely; 02-17-2016 at 10:00 AM.

  8. #258
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyborgmermaid View Post
    Is it still race-specific?
    They better stay race-specific.
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  9. #259
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasely View Post
    Let me reiterate this because you don't seem to be grasping what I've said from the start of this conversation: It's not that SE fails to create content. They're failing to nurture the content they do have while tossing more unfinished ideas at us every few patches. People aren't upset because we're getting 0 content every patch. We're upset because SE isn't taking the time to fully realize the things we do have, and enjoy. My favorite parts of the game involve side quests and the gold saucer. Some people enjoy PvP; and that's okay, too. We all just want SE to really work on the aspects of the game we do enjoy instead of pushing it aside right after it's implemented.
    YOU are upset because they are not putting their focus on the content YOU would like them to focus on. "Random person A" is upset because they are not focusing on the content "Random person A" wants them to focus on. You do not speak for everyone. Nor does anyone else. Everyone has their own preferences for what SE should focus on.
    If they were to put more focus on the content you want them to focus on, that would mean less focus on content that other people want them to focus on. No matter what they do, there will always be people that want them to do things differently. If it isn't you that is unhappy, it will be someone else.

    A lot of ideas get tested. Some turn into staples for future updates, while others get pushed aside until they get an idea on how to improve in them. There is nothing wrong with stating your unhappiness with the way things are, but it accomplishes nothing. It just causes them to continue trying to add new things until they find something that has a relatively good reception. That is why we haven't gotten a continuation of the riddle questline: Aside from one or two threads of people exchanging information on how to solve the riddles, most other threads about it were people complaining that it was pointless, too hard or the reward wasn't good enough. The point of the riddle quests was to have quests for people that liked solving riddles for the sake of solving riddles, but they found out that portion of the playerbase that actually enjoyed that sort of content just wasn't big enough to continue it in it's current format. That is why we got the broom quests instead.

    And do not make the mistake of thinking that the majority of the playerbase is unhappy based on the amount of people expressing their dislike on forums! The vast majority of the playerbase do not post on the forums, or anywhere else for that matter, as they are happy with the way things are.

    P.S. There have been two major content patches since the Gold Saucer was added. Both of them added 20 new triple triad cards each.
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  10. #260
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pomelo View Post
    Aww, this means they will stay race locked too >.<
    My fem roe woulda loved the Miqo Skirt..oh well xD
    Too bad then. I can't wear male Roe's shirt
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