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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhexos View Post
    Greetings,

    The wait is over! In Patch 3.2 it will be possible to dye the race-specific starting gear sets! These won't be new recipes, either! The currently existing race-specific gear will become dyeable after the update.

    Can't wait to see what colors everyone chooses!
    Thank you very much for the dye-able race gear, thank you very much, thank you very very much.

    And now, if anyone from the UK is reading this, please send the team some Roses chocolates to go with the jingle above.
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    wow so many whiny negative nancies in ff14 forum nows all they do is whine and complain without offering insight into how to change the game lmao those type of people will only be happy when they see the world burn ffs ._.''''
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    wow so many whiny negative nancies in ff14 forum nows all they do is whine and complain without offering insight into how to change the game lmao those type of people will only be happy when they see the world burn ffs ._.''''
    I see a lot of people posting suggestions for improvements which are currently adding a lot more to the discussion than your post 0.o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    I see a lot of people posting suggestions for improvements which are currently adding a lot more to the discussion than your post 0.o
    i see alot of people whinging its the same rehashed content patch nothin different and not adding any ideas on how to improve the game aswell :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    i see alot of people whinging its the same rehashed content patch nothin different and not adding any ideas on how to improve the game aswell :3
    Perhaps their idea to improve the game is for SE not to make the same boring, rehashed content every patch? And they're expressing this opinion by saying they don't want it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasely View Post
    Perhaps their idea to improve the game is for SE not to make the same boring, rehashed content every patch? And they're expressing this opinion by saying they don't want it?
    But they're not saying what they want instead, so I guess they would rather the game didn't get updates then.
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    I wish they'd talk about the dye able Allagan gear...please don't be class locked..more glamour options...
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    They have not added new cards and NPCs in every single patch. They added some with Heavensward, and tweaked a few NPCs. Still, they haven't added any new worthwhile content for the game.
    - No new rules.
    - no new tournaments in different areas, etc.

    Also, what about Chocobo racing? There hasn't been a single update for that since it was released.
    - Why are there no server leader boards, or new racing areas based-on the expansion zones?
    - When are they going to fix the completely random way stats are distributed while breeding? Basing the stats off the grandparents, rather than the parents was an awful idea.
    - Why can we still not trade cards/mating rights with friends?
    - Why can't we queue for Chocobo racing outside that single room yet?
    - When are the going to fix the random lag which causes item chests to not appear for players?

    I did not completely dismiss PvP. warrior has reigned supreme in pvP for months, now. They're unstoppable. SE knows this, but rather than fixing it during one of their maintenance queues, they left them drastically overpowered. Will they be nerfed? Most assuredly. Does it look like SE's simply ignoring the problem? Yes.

    There's also the riddle questline, which people loved.

    No one said there's a lack of new content. People are complaining it's the same old, tired tredmill. if SE wasn't so keen on cometely invalidating people's work every few months they'd have time to expand the world and work on things players actually want to do.

    Let me reiterate this because you don't seem to be grasping what I've said from the start of this conversation: It's not that SE fails to create content. They're failing to nurture the content they do have while tossing more unfinished ideas at us every few patches. People aren't upset because we're getting 0 content every patch. We're upset because SE isn't taking the time to fully realize the things we do have, and enjoy. My favorite parts of the game involve side quests and the gold saucer. Some people enjoy PvP; and that's okay, too. We all just want SE to really work on the aspects of the game we do enjoy instead of pushing it aside right after it's implemented.

    There's nothing wrong with complaining. There's nothing wrong with saying, "I'm not happy with the way things are." Just like there's nothing wrong with being happy with the way things are. the people here don't have to articulate every tiny reason they're not happy and give detailed solutions to all of their grievances for said grievances to be real.

    Just take the echo for instance. It was a huge plot device up until 2.2, where it became a generic, 'Primals can't enthrall you,' device. Why did we stop enterring people's pasts? Why did Moenbryda need to die when we could create spears of light to banish/destory Ascians without that device? We possessed the echo even without the crystals' powers. Even if that was the case and we did need the crystals, we never use it in the expansion, even though we've already collected a ton of them again. that's jsut one of many examples of SE having an interesting aspect to the game and completely dropping it for no apparent reason.
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    Last edited by Chasely; 02-17-2016 at 10:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasely View Post
    Let me reiterate this because you don't seem to be grasping what I've said from the start of this conversation: It's not that SE fails to create content. They're failing to nurture the content they do have while tossing more unfinished ideas at us every few patches. People aren't upset because we're getting 0 content every patch. We're upset because SE isn't taking the time to fully realize the things we do have, and enjoy. My favorite parts of the game involve side quests and the gold saucer. Some people enjoy PvP; and that's okay, too. We all just want SE to really work on the aspects of the game we do enjoy instead of pushing it aside right after it's implemented.
    YOU are upset because they are not putting their focus on the content YOU would like them to focus on. "Random person A" is upset because they are not focusing on the content "Random person A" wants them to focus on. You do not speak for everyone. Nor does anyone else. Everyone has their own preferences for what SE should focus on.
    If they were to put more focus on the content you want them to focus on, that would mean less focus on content that other people want them to focus on. No matter what they do, there will always be people that want them to do things differently. If it isn't you that is unhappy, it will be someone else.

    A lot of ideas get tested. Some turn into staples for future updates, while others get pushed aside until they get an idea on how to improve in them. There is nothing wrong with stating your unhappiness with the way things are, but it accomplishes nothing. It just causes them to continue trying to add new things until they find something that has a relatively good reception. That is why we haven't gotten a continuation of the riddle questline: Aside from one or two threads of people exchanging information on how to solve the riddles, most other threads about it were people complaining that it was pointless, too hard or the reward wasn't good enough. The point of the riddle quests was to have quests for people that liked solving riddles for the sake of solving riddles, but they found out that portion of the playerbase that actually enjoyed that sort of content just wasn't big enough to continue it in it's current format. That is why we got the broom quests instead.

    And do not make the mistake of thinking that the majority of the playerbase is unhappy based on the amount of people expressing their dislike on forums! The vast majority of the playerbase do not post on the forums, or anywhere else for that matter, as they are happy with the way things are.

    P.S. There have been two major content patches since the Gold Saucer was added. Both of them added 20 new triple triad cards each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasely View Post
    Just take the echo for instance. It was a huge plot device up until 2.2, where it became a generic, 'Primals can't enthrall you,' device. Why did we stop enterring people's pasts? Why did Moenbryda need to die when we could create spears of light to banish/destory Ascians without that device? We possessed the echo even without the crystals' powers. Even if that was the case and we did need the crystals, we never use it in the expansion, even though we've already collected a ton of them again. that's jsut one of many examples of SE having an interesting aspect to the game and completely dropping it for no apparent reason.
    Actually since this is story related I thought I'd just point out that the echo hasn't been dropped and infact HW has added new lore to the echo and how it works including confirming that the Ascians also have the Echo and revealing that each person's echo is different (we don't have the same abilities from our Echo as Krile).

    Further the issue with Moenbryda was actually explained in the quests at the time. The reason the WoL cant just pop out a Blade of Light at any time is that the first time we did it we have Hydaelyn feeding us the Aether to create the Blade of Light. Since we cant just call on that much power from Hydaelyn at will (particularly since it seems to cost her strength) we had to develop a method of gathering sufficient Aether from the surrounding area to create the Blade.
    With Moenbryda she used the Aether created from the moment of her death to fuel the device, effectively using her life force to create the Blade. The second time we do it we use the Eye.


    In all cases the actual process wasn't directly linked to the echo. I suspect they are purposely leaving the development of the WoL's echo and its particular strengths on the shelf for the moment. After all they need to have new things to develop later in the story.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    * A Glamour Storage Tab/Collections, where every item you acquire can have it's appearance stored, and used later when applying glamours to items. Heavensward added a lot of interesting gear, and I'm running out of space with my Retainers!
    * Remove Cleric Stance and allow Mind to affect the Damage of Healer Damage skills.
    * Adding Leviathan-Egi, Ramuh-Egi, and Shiva-Egi to Summoners.
    * Add new Housing Wards. Seriously, I understand you like the idea of a finite amount of housing, but the game's player population has jumped significantly. At the least base the number of Wards around the population of a server.
    * Add Red Mage already. Complete the Holy Trinity! Make it a Mage Tank if you want, completing the Holy Gaming Trinity too. A smattering of DPS and Self-Healing for enmity with some parrying and the various en-spells would make it a great tanking class, if done right.
    * Add base classes to the new Jobs and sort them into the Disciple of War and Disciple of Magic Categories. This is just my OCD flinching everytime I see them removed from the other classes/jobs. Mercenary -> Dark Knight, Engineer -> Mechanist, Seer -> Astrologian. Something like that.
    Just to address some of these:

    - They have already explained the issue they have with a glamour storage tab/system. Its something they are going to have resolve at some point but they have outright said they aren't working on something like this at the moment. If that changes I suspect we will still not see anything for quite a long time. It took over 2 years for World of Warcraft to implement its Wardrobe system from when they first mentioned they were working on it.

    - I think they aren't doing this for balance purposes. Cleric stance demands a trade off. As it is if they just removed Cleric stance and made mind effect damage healer classes would still suffer a 10% damage loss unless they baked that in.

    - I expect other primal egis eventually but as glamours. They did say they were working on a system.

    - New Housing Wards are coming in 3.3. Ishgardian housing and a new apartment housing system coming in 3.4 with the ability to grow plants in apartments/private quarters.

    - Any new Jobs will almost certainly not be added till the next expansion. They take a lot of development work.

    - I don't see them going back and retroactively adding classes to the new Jobs for the same reason as you are unlikely to see classes removed from old Jobs. Its a hell of a lot of work for little payoff.
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    Last edited by Belhi; 02-18-2016 at 01:16 AM.

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