Thread: Patch 3.2 Trailer is Up

Originally Posted by Vinta

They really should force us to have the undyeable versions, though. They should draw a line and say "You don't get to have everything you want 100% customizable." The more they cater to us, the more entitled we feel and the more we bitch at them when we don't deserve to.

I... don't understand this at all. Players like options. It's always been that way. I'd love to have the option to dye some armor from dungeons. Take the Valerian Wizard's stuff from level 60 dungeons. I'd love to dye that black and wear it on my Black Mage. I think it'd look really great. Instead I'm stuck with a shade of green that feels more appropriate to a Conjurer than a Black Mage. Works well for Summoner though.

Originally Posted by Kaurie

Like the only way I see what you're saying make sense for it being more unique now, is that it's unique in the sense that you cannot dye it. That's not a very good way to be unique.

It's not about the people being unique, it's about the equipment being unique. It takes away from the piece of gear's uniqueness by being able to dye it.

Originally Posted by Vexander

I... don't understand this at all. Players like options. It's always been that way. I'd love to have the option to dye some armor from dungeons. Take the Valerian Wizard's stuff from level 60 dungeons. I'd love to dye that black and wear it on my Black Mage. I think it'd look really great. Instead I'm stuck with a shade of green that feels more appropriate to a Conjurer than a Black Mage. Works well for Summoner though.

This right here is one reason why unique clothing shouldn't be dyeable. You think it looks less appropriate to your Black Mage just because it isn't black. Therefor you don't think it's valid for your Black Mage even though it's literally a "wizard's robe." If you dye it black, it makes it just another generic robe and it loses the feel of it being an otherworldly Valerian outfit.

Originally Posted by Vinta

It's not about the people being unique, it's about the equipment being unique. It takes away from the piece of gear's uniqueness by being able to dye it.

Indeed, which is the precisely what I suggest in the part you quoted. "Like the only way I see what you're saying make sense for it being more unique now, is that it's unique in the sense that you cannot dye it. That's not a very good way to be unique."

Originally Posted by Zhexos

Greetings,

The wait is over! In Patch 3.2 it will be possible to dye the race-specific starting gear sets! These won't be new recipes, either! The currently existing race-specific gear will become dyeable after the update.

Can't wait to see what colors everyone chooses!

Thank you very much for the dye-able race gear, thank you very much, thank you very very much.

And now, if anyone from the UK is reading this, please send the team some Roses chocolates to go with the jingle above.

Originally Posted by Vinta

It's not about the people being unique, it's about the equipment being unique. It takes away from the piece of gear's uniqueness by being able to dye it.

I can't quite see how. Better for gear to be dye-able rather than to add some max level crafted version which can be dyed, but is still just a copy/paste of the item. Take the Acolyte/Foestriker/Battlemage gear from the low levels. There are level 50 versions of those items which are crafted, and can be dyed, but I'd rather have had new items than a copy/paste and now dye-able version of low level gear. To me, adding a version of the item for the sake of making it dye-able is the antithesis of unique. A unique item shouldn't have duplicates, it should fulfill all functions items are capable of fulfilling, such as being dyed, or casting glamours.

Originally Posted by Kaurie

Indeed, which is the precisely what I suggest in the part you quoted. "Like the only way I see what you're saying make sense for it being more unique now, is that it's unique in the sense that you cannot dye it. That's not a very good way to be unique."

If you take away the unique colors, then they fail to stand out as special pieces of equipment, and just get reduced to their individual parts being hidden and forced to match with other pieces of equipment that it wouldn't otherwise match with.

Originally Posted by Vexander

I can't quite see how. Better for gear to be dye-able rather than to add some max level crafted version which can be dyed, but is still just a copy/paste of the item. Take the Acolyte/Foestriker/Battlemage gear from the low levels. There are level 50 versions of those items which are crafted, and can be dyed, but I'd rather have had new items than a copy/paste and now dye-able version of low level gear. To me, adding a version of the item for the sake of making it dye-able is the antithesis of unique. A unique item shouldn't have duplicates, it should fulfill all functions items are capable of fulfilling, such as being dyed, or casting glamours.

I agree, they shouldn't have added the separate dyeable versions. They shouldn't have made that gear dyeable in the first place.

Originally Posted by Vinta

It's not about the people being unique, it's about the equipment being unique. It takes away from the piece of gear's uniqueness by being able to dye it.

How in the name of the twelve do you come by that logic? If a piece is un-dye-able, then everyone who has it looks the same, not very unique. But if we can dye the piece, there will be far, far fewer of the same item that look the same, which, believe it or not, makes eachpiece that much rarer based not only on the piece itself, but the color chosen by the wearer. I'm really not sure how you can say that making it possible to alter the base color of an item decreases the uniqueness of it.