Insane Theory: Are YOU a Primal?

[Nestama]

Actually... speaking of which, when an Ascian dies, s/he goes to that place in between life and death, then comes back and manifests a new body (or possesses someone else's -- not sure if it's always possession, or if it's that both are possible). So... basically what a Primal does. Except we Ascians don't need tons of crystals for it; they have their Zodiark crystal instead. 0=)

Wasn't it explained (2.3?) that Primals go back to the Lifestream when defeated or something? only to return when called upon.

[Kaiser-Ace]

My theory on our characters is that WE summoned THEM into the world of Eorzea. As stated in on the 18th floor, avatars from this world can cross over into Eorzea via various means. To a person in Eorzea, the humans on Earth would have nearly god like powers as somebody who can create an avatar, replay events in time over and over again until we get the desired results, immortal as we cant really die (we always come back), etc.

I like this theory.

[Berethos]

I know, I know, don't think about it to deeply. But I can't help but wonder then, what is accepting a raise via you're home Aetheryte? It is obviously a step different from "Hey, this raise spell is basically me waking you up from a K.O. Never mind those angel wings from Ascend!"

That actually has an explanation, provided via the Lore Lowdown segment of a recent Duty Commenced live stream. Basically, when you hit that point of unconsciousness your body essentially casts return out of a sort of subconscious reflex as a means of self preservation. You return to your home Aetheryte because, so long as it is your home Aetheryte, it's the one you're most closely attuned to and so your body finds it easier to get to than any other.

[CyrilLucifer]

My theory on our characters is that WE summoned THEM into the world of Eorzea. As stated in on the 18th floor, avatars from this world can cross over into Eorzea via various means. To a person in Eorzea, the humans on Earth would have nearly god like powers as somebody who can create an avatar, replay events in time over and over again until we get the desired results, immortal as we cant really die (we always come back), etc.

Eeeh. All I'm reading from this is that you played Ar noSurge recently, because you basically just spelled out its entire plot.

(I believe Ascians controlling a host is similar to that game's Interdimend, though; once the host realizes something is wrong, it's too late to do anything about it. The only way you're getting them out is via external influence or destroying the body entirely unless they get bored and feel like relinquishing it. You even have a scene essentially beating the host's mind into submission).

[Whiteroom]

That actually has an explanation, provided via the Lore Lowdown segment of a recent Duty Commenced live stream. Basically, when you hit that point of unconsciousness your body essentially casts return out of a sort of subconscious reflex as a means of self preservation. You return to your home Aetheryte because, so long as it is your home Aetheryte, it's the one you're most closely attuned to and so your body finds it easier to get to than any other.

Oh nice. Thanks for that.

[Levy9]

Well, even that is extremely ambiguous, especially as Derplander and his friends have long been used as player stand-ins during trailers, dating waaay back to before even 1.0 was released...

That's a fair point. I think that Derplander and crew were originally intended to be stand-ins for player characters but it's possible that they've been reinterpreted to be canon characters instead of stand-ins. The reason I say that is because of the echo wherein the Warrior of Light sees into the past of the Warrior of Darkness during their first encounter. In the past the WoD and crew appear exactly as they appear in the trailers. They have the exact same color palette from the trailers and they're attempting to kill an Ascian. So it appears to me that they are the characters from the trailer who used to be fighting against the Ascians before being changed somehow or convinced to work for them.

[DPZ2]

Whatever we are, we existed long before the moon began to descend -- we were around when Cid took off in his first airship years ago. Heck, we even gave him his first set of goggles ...

Primals temper their victims, er, worshipers ... we inspire admiration.

Primals demand more and more from their subjects ... we provide comfort to the dying, medicine to the ill, compassion to those less fortunate than ourselves, aid to the weary -- I suspect that from the viewpoint of the many western religious traditions, we are more akin to angels than to gods.

Then again, my favorite Martian spoke thus: "Thou art God".

[Mixae]

Yea the primal of fluff :3

[Whiteroom]

Whatever we are, we existed long before the moon began to descend -- we were around when Cid took off in his first airship years ago. Heck, we even gave him his first set of goggles ...

I've wondered about that comment he made before, and figured I must have missed something. Does anyone have any clarification on it? Is it a 1.0 referance?

[Enkidoh]

It was purely metaphorical - as someone mentioned our Echo effectively removed his amnesia and thus it was symbolized by us appearing in an Echo scene of Cid when he fled from Garlemald, using the goggles as a metaphor for 'giving his memory back' so to speak. FF games are full of symbolism and metaphor and thus you can't always take everything you see and read in them at face value - you actually have to think about it and 'read between the lines' to see what they're really meaning.