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  1. #21
    Player Ilitsa's Avatar
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    Ilitsa Samariya
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    I don't think we're primals, but at the same time, I don't think we're "normal" either, in that we weren't born/raised/whatever. I think we were created from the Hydalyn crystal itself and placed in the world to do the WoL stuff. That's why the primals can't temper/drown/whatever us.
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    Kai Magnus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilitsa View Post
    I don't think we're primals, but at the same time, I don't think we're "normal" either, in that we weren't born/raised/whatever. I think we were created from the Hydalyn crystal itself and placed in the world to do the WoL stuff. That's why the primals can't temper/drown/whatever us.
    Hydaelyn does refure to us as Son/Daughter but we have an unmentioned family in an unmentioned homeland that we traveled from at an unmentioned age to become an adventurer in Eorzea either just before the 6th Astral Era Ended or 5 years after the 7th Umbral Era began.

    Typical Silent Protagonist BS.

    As for the bolded section, we might as well just start saying Enthralled as this point for a generic "Primal Brainwashing" term since the term changes based on the primal's element.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violyre View Post

    [...]
    2. Midgardsormr's disconnect of the Blessing of Light is another thorn in my thoughts
    Unless... he didn't seal away everything. Only the things that upgraded us. ^_~ Reverted us to basics, so to speak.

    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    And they can tell a Primal is nearby (especially Y'stola
    That's more of an issue, yeah. On the other hand... At the end of 3.0, a certain archbishop looks at us all shocked and asks "what are you?" or something to the point.
    But still, one would think the Scions (and Y'stola especially, yes) would have reacted to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilitsa View Post
    I don't think we're primals, but at the same time, I don't think we're "normal" either, in that we weren't born/raised/whatever. I think we were created from the Hydalyn crystal itself and placed in the world to do the WoL stuff. That's why the primals can't temper/drown/whatever us.
    Well, tbh, when I got to Ifrit in the MSQ for the first time (which was during the last beta, if I recall correctly) and saw all that "wtf, my tempering is useless D:" stuff, my thought was immediately that "of course you can't temper someone who's already been 'tempered' by Hydaelyn." ^^;

    Which would also be a possibility instead of us being a primal. And us gathering those crystal "power-ups" might either be to power up our connection to Mama Crystal, or to power up Mama Crystal herself. You know, help her regain strength to be able to fight off Zodiark and all that. Would also help explain why the Scions haven't said anything yet.

    Anyways, I'm mostly rambling (instead of going to bed). I like theories like these; even when I'm fairly confident they're not true, I still find it enjoyable to imagine the "what if it was" scenario.
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  4. #24
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    T'erra Branford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Because it's not actually true death that occurs when your character's HP reaches zero, it's literally unconsciousness (thus spell titles like 'Raise' and 'Resurrection' are a misnomer, they're more akin to resuscitation techniques)... ... it. /jk It's one of those times where gameplay mechanics are ignored for the sake of storyline - don't think about it too much.
    I know, I know, don't think about it to deeply. But I can't help but wonder then, what is accepting a raise via you're home Aetheryte? It is obviously a step different from "Hey, this raise spell is basically me waking you up from a K.O. Never mind those angel wings from Ascend!"
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    I know, I know, don't think about it to deeply. But I can't help but wonder then, what is accepting a raise via you're home Aetheryte? It is obviously a step different from "Hey, this raise spell is basically me waking you up from a K.O. Never mind those angel wings from Ascend!"
    That? That's just taking advantage of our excellent life insurance policy, courtesy of Mama Crystal Inc. :p
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    Alexander Dragonfang
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    A Primal no. But a deity defenitly, we already killed one god or at least, something with the power that rivals one. The warring triad are literal gods and we going to kill em all. As the bishop said "Who, what are you!".

    All this hypes me up because i can totally see our unavoidable downfall, in the end, we haven't really took a beaten, the events of ARR ended up with Alphinaud being the most affect, so far HW is about HIM growing up while we get stronger, but we haven't been so far utterly defeated in any way or form, i forsee this downfall, the breaking of a god sooner than later, probably by the end of HW when our power rival those of a god and victory seems to be near. My bet is that we getting hammered down by Omega before the end of HW. And this time we will be fleeing the Eorzean continent.
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    A Primal no. But a deity defenitly, we already killed one god or at least, something with the power that rivals one. The warring triad are literal gods and we going to kill em all. As the bishop said "Who, what are you!".

    All this hypes me up because i can totally see our unavoidable downfall, in the end, we haven't really took a beaten, the events of ARR ended up with Alphinaud being the most affect, so far HW is about HIM growing up while we get stronger, but we haven't been so far utterly defeated in any way or form, i forsee this downfall, the breaking of a god sooner than later, probably by the end of HW when our power rival those of a god and victory seems to be near. My bet is that we getting hammered down by Omega before the end of HW. And this time we will be fleeing the Eorzean continent.
    Doubt we'd leave Eorzea until 4.0 at the earliest. But I'd LOVE to see us having our ass handed too us.
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  8. #28
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    C'desh Lios
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    Your character may have come out of the aether, but I come from the Coeurl tribe. I adopted a last name after being exposed to the outside world and due to being unwilling to be thought of as a Nunh or Tia only. Also as others have stated those of us from 1.0 didn't just appear anyway, we were brought back out of the void (or wherever Louisoix sent us to protect us until the world needed us again).

    But that is the point of us having a vague intro, so that you can attach to your character and think about what they may have been doing before they appeared. Honestly I always thought
    We were supposed to take the place of derplanders merry band, but with the whole crew showing up as the WoD...
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    Last edited by Dgsoil; 02-15-2016 at 05:27 PM.

  9. #29
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    Alexander Dragonfang
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    Doubt we'd leave Eorzea until 4.0 at the earliest. But I'd LOVE to see us having our ass handed too us.
    3.6 - Heavensfall.
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    Last edited by Alexander_Dragonfang; 02-15-2016 at 05:24 PM.

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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    We're pretty much Hydaelyn's Ascians (which also have the Echo).
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