Insane Theory: Are YOU a Primal?

[Synrin]

I certainly hope not!

Being sort of a god wouldn't be that bad, but I feel so mistreated during the entire story that I have a hard time imagining I am THAT important.

[Averax]

I had a similar theory a long time ago.

[Valkyrie-Amber]

the wod and wol are the same being just split like yin and yang so yep primals are us.

[Remus]

We are not primals. If you listen to the story that would make no sense whatsoever when people around you have ways of detecting aether. The only thing I can say is you are on your way to god level of strength but not a primal. This topic has been spoken about so much and there are things in place where that won't be possible.

[Felis]

We are beast tribes

[Noxifer]

Your character may have come out of the aether, but I come from the Coeurl tribe. [...]

Did you :3 or are you just a manifestation/shadow of someone who did? (No, I'm not really challenging your opinion of who your character is, just offering some food for thought ^^)

Also: Hi, fellow tribe member! o/

We're pretty much Hydaelyn's Ascians (which also have the Echo).

Don't think that's too far off, no ^^ And... pretty much goes hand in hand with the whole "'tempered' by Hydaelyn" business. Even if they wouldn't admit it, and whatever the term would be, I'm fairly confident the Ascians are 'tempered' by Zodiark. Hence the whole fanaticism, even if they don't all express it the same way.

After all, in 3.1, it's mentioned that all 'warriors of light' have a crystal in them (IIRC), the same as the Ascians have the dark crystal in them, same as that one we found when we banished our first Ascian back at level 15 or so.

Actually... speaking of which, when an Ascian dies, s/he goes to that place in between life and death, then comes back and manifests a new body (or possesses someone else's -- not sure if it's always possession, or if it's that both are possible). So... basically what a Primal does. Except we Ascians don't need tons of crystals for it; they have their Zodiark crystal instead. 0=)

No. The WoL is not a primal. Primals literally drain the land of aether simply by manifesting in a physical form.

Hm... How did that work with Bahamut, who spent quite some time being manifested? And the Warring Triad, who I'm assuming are in a similar state of imprisonment rather than non-existence. (No, I'm not asking to be contrary, I'm honestly curious.)
Also, would the aether currents move differently if our primary (pun not intended) draw of aether was from within, via the crystal within us? Could that be different enough that we'd escape notice? Hypothetically, I mean.

On a random note, I wonder if the Allagans examined/experimented on 'warriors of light/darkness' when they built the Ultima Weapon. You know, like how we gained those hexagram crystals with each primal we defeated, Ultima also absorbed power from defeated primals. Manifesting said power quite a bit differently, but hey... can't expect too much from warriors of light, eh?

[Whiteroom]

We are not primals. If you listen to the story that would make no sense whatsoever when people around you have ways of detecting aether. The only thing I can say is you are on your way to god level of strength but not a primal. This topic has been spoken about so much and there are things in place where that won't be possible.

Maybe they view us as a nessacary evil at the moment. (I know, I don't believe it, just sayin.)

They don't seem to have too much of an issue with sending us to almost certian death time and time again.

[CyrilLucifer]

Actually... speaking of which, when an Ascian dies, s/he goes to that place in between life and death, then comes back and manifests a new body (or possesses someone else's -- not sure if it's always possession, or if it's that both are possible).

The exact rules are a bit foggy.

Nabriales clearly reformed his body, poof! Right out of mid-aether. I do not believe he had a host in the first place. Moenbryda seemed to be capable of seeing his reformed body, too. I believe this is the form they choose to take, with an added tint of the whole "appearance based upon expectations" bit, which explains the inconsistency in Igeyorhm's form. We have Lahabrea's PoV at the end of 2.0, where she speaks and we're shown with her hood down. She is clearly a Midlander female with her less broad chest and breasts. But then she is also hostless (clearly, she had to be to make Ascian Prime) at the end of 3.0 and she appears male; your expectations of male Ascians are influencing your perception of the female. So basically, she prefers a female form, but your experience tells you to expect a male, because Laha/Nabri/Eli are all males, and therefore see her as male.
Bonus Edit: Igeyorhm comparison demonstrating the model differences: http://i.imgur.com/keZ4maA.jpg

Otherwise, for hosts, the general trend is: for those "without the Gift or knowledge" (as Elidibus puts it), Ascians need a host for mortal interaction. If you have the Echo or have the knowledge of Ascians, like the Scions, they should be able to see them just fine. However, I believe this rule might be bent; if the Ascian does not wish to be seen by the non-Gifted/knowledgeable mortals, they won't. If they do wish to by seen, they can be, and may initiate interaction this way. You might consider XII's Venat as a comparison, as the Ascians are clearly very similar to the Occuria.

[Catwho]

Ascians remind me a lot of the Mazoku from Slayers. Their only real stated goal is to return the universe to its original nothingness, by rendering chaos from order and returning it to the Lord of Nightmares. (Ironically, the Lord of Nightmares used a human as an avatar and told them to cut that shit out.)

I don't think the WoL is a primal - the fact that we all have the lore tools needed to build a backstory for our character means we're real, flesh and blood. We're one of Hydalaen's chosen, of which there were many in both 1.0 and now 2.0. (Man, my poor 1.0 path companion. He was a jerk and he didn't want to have the Echo. He probably died during the Calamity. Poor guy.) Ysayle was a real Elezen, too.

[Hyperia]

My theory on our characters is that WE summoned THEM into the world of Eorzea. As stated in on the 18th floor, avatars from this world can cross over into Eorzea via various means. To a person in Eorzea, the humans on Earth would have nearly god like powers as somebody who can create an avatar, replay events in time over and over again until we get the desired results, immortal as we cant really die (we always come back), etc.