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  1. #3021
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    Ignnis's Avatar
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    Ignis Inferne
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    On MCH at void ark second last boss.
    Everything goes well but notices that HP is slowly....oh so very slowly going down.
    HP at 25% now, it's ok, healers will notice.
    HP at 5% panic stations!
    Death occurs.
    Raid wipes shortly after.
    This trend repeats multiple times and I watch as other party members suffer the same fate.
    Eventually gets fed up dying to bleed and calls healers out.
    Other DPS agree with claims.
    Noticed that neither WHM used Medica II or Cure II for the whole fight.
    Healer tells me bleed is not her problem and I should just dodge it.

    *I run away in tears
    "WEU WEU WEU PIIII!"

    (Kung pow ref there if you don't know)
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  2. #3022
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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    If the debuff is from an attack that is avoidable AOE, yeah you need to pay more attention, I hate to say - but that doesn't make it right for those healers to forgo removing it, even if it's excessive application. Healer's with attitudes like that need to understand they aren't doing anyone any favors, and they aren't making the point they think they are making.

    Glad I play healer, since I don't have to worry about running into one of those. I just have to put up with tanks with attitudes for no reason.
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    Last edited by Twilite; 02-05-2016 at 04:46 AM.

  3. #3023
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    NanaWiloh's Avatar
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ignnis View Post
    On MCH at void ark second last boss.
    Everything goes well but notices that HP is slowly....oh so very slowly going down.
    HP at 25% now, it's ok, healers will notice.
    HP at 5% panic stations!
    Death occurs.
    Raid wipes shortly after.
    This trend repeats multiple times and I watch as other party members suffer the same fate.
    Eventually gets fed up dying to bleed and calls healers out.
    Other DPS agree with claims.
    Noticed that neither WHM used Medica II or Cure II for the whole fight.
    Healer tells me bleed is not her problem and I should just dodge it.

    *I run away in tears
    "WEU WEU WEU PIIII!"

    (Kung pow ref there if you don't know)
    If we ever meet in a raid Ignnis I promise I will;
    Medica II too you,and regen you,asylum for you and call you GEORGE!!! <3
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  4. #3024
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    Sagittarian's Avatar
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    Nesshin'na Kasai
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    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 90
    The bleed in Cu Chulainn isn't avoidable. There is one stack of bleed on everyone the entire time and the gyrtowers each add a stack when they are out. The bleed stacks are not removable but the single stack is easily countered by regen or medica II. It's like the electricity damage during King Behemoth in Labyrinth of the Ancients.
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  5. #3025
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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    So, two lazy healers, and 1 that went in with a holier than thou attitude.
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  6. #3026
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    Fevelle's Avatar
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    I'm not sure why Final Sting is an issue as tank because it never is to me even if i'm not 100% HP. Just focus target, and when you see it being cast with it not dead yet, pop your immunity (Hallowed Ground) then or the strongest CD you have left. I've seen 100% HP PLDs fall to their face because they think they can eat it all. Although a Scholar could shield for the mechanic, still it's best to prep a cooldown for it if you know the DPS isn't going to be there.
    I have a big problem with Final Stings on Arboretum. I'm a main WHM, so I only have 2 instant heals. I can heal the first 2 stings, but if the tank doesn't pop a CD for the third, he's dead for good. And most of them end up blaming me for "no healing" (because it's super possible to cast a Cure 2 on someone losing 3K hp per second after getting stinged)
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  7. #3027
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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Divine Seal + Cure II spam.

    But even then, that's probably not going to be enough if one or three things is happening: The DPS isn't strong enough, or one or both DPS is not attacking the bee. You can be certain the latter is often the case. Although as stated, there is Hallowed Ground/Holmgang/Living Dead. I'm tempted to tank that place just to try something(never have tanked it).
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    Last edited by Twilite; 02-05-2016 at 06:24 PM.

  8. #3028
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    It's a huuuge mana burn
    For something the tank can simply stun and avoid...

    In my case if the tank do not stun or use CD... Then he is dead meat !
    I won't heal more than i'm doing... Plus I DPS ! So please tank-kun don't panic of you fall under 20% HP... I've got you covered !

    ...

    The arboretum is trickier... Since the bee can final sting even if you do not DPS them
    When the other are trigger at 25/20% hp
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  9. #3029
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    Sida's Avatar
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    Sida Bajihri
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    Divine Seal + Cure II spam.

    But even then, that's probably not going to be enough if one or three things is happening: The DPS isn't strong enough, or one or both DPS is not attacking the bee. You can be certain the latter is often the case. Although as stated, there is Hallowed Ground/Holmgang/Living Dead. I'm tempted to tank that place just to try something(never have tanked it).
    In the pull I believe they are talking about in arboretum, -no one- is attacking the bees. Everyone is breaking the wall while the tank tanks and healer desperately tries to keep him alive through multiple bees.
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

  10. #3030
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    I have a big problem with Final Stings on Arboretum. I'm a main WHM, so I only have 2 instant heals. I can heal the first 2 stings, but if the tank doesn't pop a CD for the third, he's dead for good. And most of them end up blaming me for "no healing" (because it's super possible to cast a Cure 2 on someone losing 3K hp per second after getting stinged)
    Divine seal pile on the HoT's you also have an AoE that stuns as well as does damage. If it's dragging on just pop E4E and all your HoT's and go crazy with holy to keep everything stun locked for hopefully long enough for them to die or the wall to be broken so they can be reset. I'm not excusing the Tank because they should be doing better but sometimes you just have to carry harder XD. swiftcast plus cure II makes a good instant heal also especially if you have divine seal active. Unless the DPS are crazy slow you should be able to rotate tetra and swiftcast cure II with one benediction save while stun locking the crap out of everything.
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    Last edited by MXMoondoggie; 02-05-2016 at 11:24 PM.

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