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[Torunya]

I keep chiming on the topic because 90% of the time it's the tank's fault for not focusing the bee cast bar.

Slightly off-topic, but I feel like I've missed something vital I need answered. We can only focus target 1 enemy, and there are bucket-tons of bees usually being kited in circles in Arboretum as dps focus on the breakable wall. How in the world can anyone keep an eye on all of them at once to know which bee is casting final sting?

[Februs]

Slightly off-topic, but I feel like I've missed something vital I need answered. We can only focus target 1 enemy, and there are bucket-tons of bees usually being kited in circles in Arboretum as dps focus on the breakable wall. How in the world can anyone keep an eye on all of them at once to know which bee is casting final sting?

The short answer is that you can't. That said, you can make a educated guess as to which one will cast first.

To my knowledge (unless SE has recently changed the way this works), Final Sting is tied to a timer as well as the mob's Hp. The timer initiates at the start of the pull. If you don't kill the bees before requisite time, they start the cast. Further, if you burn them to a certain Hp marker (I don't know the exact %), they also start the cast. This means that if NO ONE is doing damage to the bees, then Final Sting will initiate based on the timer. If Final Sting is going to be based on timer, then the first Bee that you attacked/pulled will also be the first Bee to initiate the cast of Final Sting (with several others following a second later). Assuming that both Dps are attacking the honeycomb, the best guess a Tank can make is to Focus Target the first Bee that is pulled (which also requires them to be pretty fast on the button).

That said, IF you have a gun happy Dps who pushes one or more of the Bee's below their Hp threshold, then your focus target won't help you. Putting a Bee's Hp below the Final Sting threshold will initiate the cast early and change the order of which Bee starts Final Sting first. The only indication of which Bee is casting first is by watching for the visual casting animation or paying very close attention to the Hp bars in your enemy list. The odds of a Tank noticing this in the giant jumble of Hp bars and mashed up enemies is very low. So, it's really best if the Dps are on the same page about which method the group is going for.

[Torunya]

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Thanks a bunch for that informative reply. I'll make sure to incorporate these measures the next times in run Arboretum, although I wouldn't blame anyone else for dying to final sting if this is what they have to go through. Thanks again!

[_slowpoke_]

The short answer is that you can't.

Uh, you can, because it's not just any of the bees that cast the Final Sting. It's one specific mob, the Orn Hornet. There's one hornet per wave, and they will only cast Final Sting once each. It's pretty simple to just focus target them from the enemy list.

[Torunya]

Uh, you can, because it's not just any of the bees that cast the Final Sting. It's one specific mob, the Orn Hornet. There's one hornet per wave, and they will only cast Final Sting once each. It's pretty simple to just focus target them from the enemy list.

That still isn't something I would expect anyone to pick up on. I'm just glad I know this so I can actually prepare accordingly. Thanks slowpoke. ^_^

[Februs]

Uh, you can, because it's not just any of the bees that cast the Final Sting. It's one specific mob, the Orn Hornet. There's one hornet per wave, and they will only cast Final Sting once each. It's pretty simple to just focus target them from the enemy list.

That is true; however, you still cannot Focus Target 2 targets at once. When I said "you can't," that's what I meant. Further, if you're doing a Honeycomb burn instead of killing the mob, there is an issue of timing.

Depending on how fast the Dps are burning the honeycomb, the Final Sting of the first hornet can appear anywhere between just before the second hornet shows up (if the Dps are slow) to well after (if they are quick). If your Dps are fast, both hornets will be up at the same time. It's possible to keep an eye on both, but you cannot focus target both. You have to focus target one and directly target the other. Most tanks will opt to not do this, because directly targeting the second hornet means reducing Dps on the honeycomb. The result of this is an increase in dmg from the rest of the mob over a longer period of time (which also wastes additional Defensive CD's just before a boss fight) and an increased risk of eating two Final Stings instead of just one. As much as we'd all like to think that Dps players are superstars, it's a likely bet that at least one of the two is pants-on-head stupid. So the safer gamble is to FT the first hornet and prey that the Dps don't screw up the timing on the second one.

Thanks a bunch for that informative reply. I'll make sure to incorporate these measures the next times in run Arboretum, although I wouldn't blame anyone else for dying to final sting if this is what they have to go through. Thanks again!

Anytime, but I still would look at tanks with scrutiny (I know I do). Like Slowpoke pointed out, there are only 2 hornets to deal with. By themselves, it's not really all that much. The bigger issue is actually providing mitigation for all the other adds. It really shouldn't be too difficult to pay attention to two mobs, but dividing attention tends to cause Tanks to screw up, especially when the Final Sting hits when they are not expecting it to (which is usually because of varying dps speeds on the honeycomb).