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    Quote Originally Posted by JoelStrife View Post
    My understanding of the patch is that damage is going to scale on vit not str, surely adding vit not str acc will make all the difference moving forwards? or am I missing something.
    Mine is that it will scale on VIT and STR, with STR at a lower impact.
    It's not like you'll go from "full DPS" to "you're as low as if you were wearing INT accessories"

    I think they keep Strength only to make the transition smooth, since, once you chose VIT accessories, you could technically drop STR altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    Did I miss something? Aren't our Tomestones of Law getting converted into Tomestones of Esoterics when 3.2 hits?
    If it's anything like the last tomestone change, no. You'll probably be able to manually convert Law to Esoteric at one of the tomestone NPCs, but at a crappy exchange rate, same as Soldiery to Poetics. Your leftover Law won't just magically turn 1:1 into Esoterics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _slowpoke_ View Post
    If it's anything like the last tomestone change, no. You'll probably be able to manually convert Law to Esoteric at one of the tomestone NPCs, but at a crappy exchange rate, same as Soldiery to Poetics. Your leftover Law won't just magically turn 1:1 into Esoterics.
    Aha, well that makes sense. Still, capping Law would make sense. Even if it's a 2:1 or a 3:1 conversion, that would still go a long way to helping those who are struggling to re-build their sets (representing ~660-1000 Esoterics from full Law).

    EDIT: As a curiosity, what was the conversion rate like before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    EDIT: As a curiosity, what was the conversion rate like before?
    The last 2 conversion rates have been 4:1.
    Mythology > Soldiery
    Soldiery > Poetics

    I do not remember the conversion rate for Philosophy > Mythology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Mine is that it will scale on VIT and STR, with STR at a lower impact.
    It's not like you'll go from "full DPS" to "you're as low as if you were wearing INT accessories"

    I think they keep Strength only to make the transition smooth, since, once you chose VIT accessories, you could technically drop STR altogether.
    I think the important question is how much of a difference is there between the damage scale for vit, and the damage scale for strength, time will tell I guess. As you say at least str isn't completely obsolete, but it could be a slight setback for some of the strength heavy tanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    Long term it'll be a good change for tanks but as soon as the patch hits it's gonna suck that my tanks are all gonna take a step backwards from 210 to 199~ for a week or so. But it's not the end of the world since new gear will be coming out anyway.
    Actually its horrible long term design, less they add strength to vitality gear tanks will slowly lose damage as ilvl goes up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Actually its horrible long term design, less they add strength to vitality gear tanks will slowly lose damage as ilvl goes up.
    Tanks gain more vitality per ilvl than strength so unless vitality is weaker than strength (which is the exact opposite of what they have said is happening) this would be impossible as main stat becomes more valuable as you get more of it?
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Instrumentality View Post
    Tanks gain more vitality per ilvl than strength so unless vitality is weaker than strength (which is the exact opposite of what they have said is happening) this would be impossible as main stat becomes more valuable as you get more of it?
    So Vitality is equal to 1 (current) strength for damage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    So Vitality is equal to 1 (current) strength for damage?
    That is not what I said.
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    I can't see what's wrong with allowing a swap. It's not like u get free vit accs, you lose ur Str ones in the process
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