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  1. #151
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    AlexiIvaniskavich's Avatar
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    Hrothgar Grulag
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DotsNnots View Post
    Thanks, I did read the notes, but wanted some tank-player input. Especially since what a game-dev says about the function in a game doesn't always equal what the player's experience....
    Well, presently game function for what exactly 3.2 will be is unknown. all we have to go on are the translated notes. This change brings the game back into the ballpark of what the Dev's intended. Until there are actual numbers to crunch, I don't believe this meta will deviate from this path.
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  2. #152
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    Nova' Dragon
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    Paladin Lv 92
    If they keep the mob damage as minimal the game will be a cakewalk for tanks, no challenge at anything. The reason to STR is push to damage and control hate more. You wouldn't be able to hold the high end parse melee DPS or blm without having trouble controlling it for the 60 cap. Regardless of VIT mods for damage, people are still going to aim DPS check pushing in Raiding, lol.... More HP, stronger tank busters, doesn't make a difference. The faster the fights are pushed and phased, the easier it is. You may think it will stop tank dps, but no it won't, dedicated raid groups are still going to force you to have a parse check.

    SCOB, FCOB, Alex Gordias all forced you to STR in your attacks to make the dps checks and end the fight quicker. Midas is going to do the same, VIT modded as a damage attribute.
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    Last edited by Undeadfire; 02-02-2016 at 07:24 AM.
    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

  3. #153
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    i get both str and vita 210 accesories.
    i all times get the two set to be sure, i am safe for anything.
    all the tank raiding should have done the same.
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  4. #154
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Quote Originally Posted by Instrumentality View Post
    Pretty sure the unfair part was tanks having a choice at all where no one else got one. Also you know the part where new players were consistently misled by game design to pick up incorrect jewelry.

    I'm glad they're correcting both of those problems.
    There was not a choice, strength was clearly better in every part of the game. So please take that talk elsewhere.
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  5. #155
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

  6. #156
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    Liaysa Sineos
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    Exodus
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Undeadfire View Post
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    Without any real information on actual weights you are just making baseless assumptions. Just imagine if the str weight as it is now, shifted to vit for tanks. 1 vit = 1 atk power. There would be zero reason to wear str gear, but that won't happen. In actuality, if the weight of vit is even slightly more than str point for point for atk power, people will stack vit over str, as it will increase dps.
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  7. #157
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    That's what I'm saying... Increase DPS, that's the point. I'm only making a baseless example.
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

  8. #158
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    Caitlinzulu's Avatar
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    Caitlin Seraphim
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    Shiva
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    All pray to the god of deeps. XP
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  9. #159
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    Instrumentality's Avatar
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    Eureka Evergarden
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    There was not a choice, strength was clearly better in every part of the game. So please take that talk elsewhere.
    Pretty sure melded jewelry provided more stats than any one type of other jewelry ever has, and tanks uniquely benefited from it massively.

    So nah, I think I'll keep talking right here.

    Also maybe you should have eso strength jewelry before you ask the developers for free time (to refund all that time you spent not actually getting strength jewelry) that you spent getting your non-existent jewelry?
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    My life while tanking is an existential hell from which there is no escape.

  10. #160
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    Syzygia Coahcuhhar
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    I want to see what happens if VIT is weighted high enough over STR that it'll be a DPS loss to switch a parry VIT piece for a crit/det STR piece or something. Wouldn't that be some shit? Some tanks might have a full-on meltdown.
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