Live Letter 3.2 tank changes, vit effects tank attack

[Jpec07]

Hopefully DRKs realise that it's not a good idea to pop it in a dungeon... In a raid though there are two healers and healing ~12k within 3 GCD isn't a big challenge. 3 Cures or equivalent do about 7-8k alone and using Cure II/Ben II does even more. All healers have some instant heals, hots are rolling and at least one out of 2 healers likely has Swiftcast available. It's not as bad as people make it seem imo.

Except DRKs will have 20k HP now. That complicates matters. I'm seriously hoping that the overall evaluation of other tanks that they mentioned is going to address this (not to mention, it's buggy as hell right now anyway).

However, a good dark knight who pops it in an emergency situation who dies to it after? What they basically did was buy you 10 seconds of tanking time, compared to instantly dying. That 10 seconds can be all the difference for some situations.

I was in the Vault the other night with my FC healer, getting her the dungeons she needed for her Relic. But DPS was low (two at-level BRDs), and she was having a horrible time with lag, and kept lagging to death on the last boss (usually on the last phase where the two lines of knights march down the platform). Despite multiple strats and attempts, the lag kept killing her when that second line of knights came out (to the point where the entire screen would lock, and six seconds later she'd rubber band to her death). Our final attempt won the match, though, because after she died, I was able to time Hallowed Ground just so to preserve my life with <200 HP left, and keep tanking the boss long enough for the DPS to get another LB1 out. The fight ended right as I was about to take a hit that would have meant death.

While I used Hallowed Ground on that attempt, Living Dead would have been just as effective.

[Starkbeaumont]

Living dead is gonna be real fun to heal now...

I hope Living dead will be changed somehow, cause atm it's the biggest (and actually only) issue i have with DRK

[Gralna]

Based on what is written on this forum:

1) Speed run are a must, so the tanks have to make mega pull (maybe all the dungeon);
2) The healers have to heal, but they also have to dps, because many pro on this forum said pro healer (like them) can clear dungeon with cleric stance always up (I read it just yesterday);
3) The healers also have to pay attention to the mechanics, otherwise they're lazy (I think it was on the healer's forum).

Gealers have to dps? No, but with a good tank and normal pulls (very rare conditions) they can contribute to the dps (and is even funny). Still, the current meta is one of worst I've ever seen in a mmorpg, with many tanks who want pull the whole dungeon (even if they have strengh gear and don't know how to use cd), and many dps who can't make decent damage and ignore the mechanics.

So I wonder, is it really a problem the lack of healer's dps?

Entirely possible to heal certain duties entirely in Cleric Stance as a Sch, if you have a good party. SS prepull, alternate Eye for an Eye and Rouse between pulls, have Eos use Whispering Dawn when she can, if tank is still taking a bit too much dmg on a pull, have Eos use Fey Illumination, and if there is a lot of magic dmg going out, have Eos use Fey Covenant.

[Raineer]

had to snip

I think this is a fantastic summary.

Point 1 - To me (as a tank) speed runs annoy me. *IF* I'm in a group with friends and I know everyone can play, I'll happily run one. But with even one unknown player they can be painful as can because....

Points 2 and 3 - Everyone needs to know the mechanics. All classes, period. It's not tank-specific or heal-specific, everyone does. Everyone can help DPS, when it makes sense. The idea that healers "should only keep the party alive" is as retarded as saying "tanks only should keep hate". The group advances when the mobs die, so everyone should help to kill the mobs.

It wasn't until late in the Heavenward storyline that I feel SE put anything in the way of solo-content that stressed a player's skill. So there's so many players with no skill at all, and no reason to learn any. I can't stand carrying people - but there is no real reason built into the game for people to learn their classes.

[Nalien]

I hope Living dead will be changed somehow, cause atm it's the biggest (and actually only) issue i have with DRK

Slap a persistent Dark Arts effect for its duration, and double the HP healed from Souleater/Abyssal Drain. Any extra self-healing that should provide should make up for the extra HP.

[FinalWolf]

I hope Living dead will be changed somehow, cause atm it's the biggest (and actually only) issue i have with DRK

Maybe they can change it to where the DRK needs 50% health recovered while in the walking dead state?

[Shizzle]

So with the new changes coming in next month as im planning on being a PLD tank, for those of us in our early 20's does this mean now we should be focusing on filling our points into Vit instead of Str or only focusing on gear that gives more Vit? For currently I split my attribute points between Str and Vit with every level up.

[Kogasan]

This is something I've been wanting for a long while so glad square-enix is finally coming around to this. Also my husband who plays a tank is glad they are doing this to since like me he was waiting for this to. So goodbye str tanks and welcome they way it should have always been vit tanks.

[Archaell]

So with the new changes coming in next month as im planning on being a PLD tank, for those of us in our early 20's does this mean now we should be focusing on filling our points into Vit instead of Str or only focusing on gear that gives more Vit? For currently I split my attribute points between Str and Vit with every level up.

There is nothing wrong with using the points and accessories 50/50 right now.

When the change happens you can buy an item at your Grand Company for few seals to change your attribute points and then switch the gear depending on the changes.

[Jpec07]

So with the new changes coming in next month as im planning on being a PLD tank, for those of us in our early 20's does this mean now we should be focusing on filling our points into Vit instead of Str or only focusing on gear that gives more Vit? For currently I split my attribute points between Str and Vit with every level up.

Once you get to 50, you'll be able to change your additional attributes with an item you can buy from your Grand Company. In terms of gearing, maximizing Defense and Magic Defense will give you better mitigation (regardless of Vit/Str), but for the bonus stats, you're safe putting them in either. It also helps that the 35 points you'll have at 60 are only a drop in the bucket compared to what you'll get on gear, roughly equal to a single stat allocation on a single piece of gear.