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    The only way this will work really, is by having VIT completely replacing STR-crit and determination. If its only like STR or a bit better, tanks will still roll slaying gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    The only way this will work really, is by having VIT completely replacing STR-crit and determination. If its only like STR or a bit better, tanks will still roll slaying gear.
    if the put vit have the same scale on damage like str, fending still win because fending give more vit compared to slaysing with str.

    example now:
    vit = 0 damage
    str = 1 damage

    3.2
    vit =0.5 damage
    str =0.5 damage

    fending win have more vit stats, after all in 3.0 main stats are far superior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    if the put vit have the same scale on damage like str, fending still win because fending give more vit compared to slaysing with str.

    example now:
    vit = 0 damage
    str = 1 damage

    3.2
    vit =0.5 damage
    str =0.5 damage

    fending win have more vit stats, after all in 3.0 main stats are far superior.
    Fending won`t win in that situtation. Because slaying gear also grants skill speed, determination and critical, where Fending gives much lower skill speed and near no determination which is usually the stat replaced by parry. So if STR and VIT will both weight the same, at best, you will find tanks running a mix of slaying/fending accesories to max damage stats, like using just the fending acc without parry + slaying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Fending won`t win in that situtation. Because slaying gear also grants skill speed, determination and critical, where Fending gives much lower skill speed and near no determination which is usually the stat replaced by parry. So if STR and VIT will both weight the same, at best, you will find tanks running a mix of slaying/fending accesories to max damage stats, like using just the fending acc without parry + slaying.
    Um...what

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/e4ff8bcd94f/

    Oh look, a Fending accessory with Accuracy and Skill Speed.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/9eadbf2fa22/
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/31220e14e12/

    Wait, now Acc and Crit!

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/184f6f5ea73/
    And finally, Acc/det


    And that's just the i210. There were Crit/Det VIT accessories in previous tiers
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    Last edited by PArcher; 01-31-2016 at 06:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Um...what

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/e4ff8bcd94f/

    Oh look, a Fending accessory with Accuracy and Skill Speed.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/9eadbf2fa22/
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/31220e14e12/

    Wait, now Acc and Crit!

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/184f6f5ea73/
    And finally, Acc/det


    And that's just the i210. There were Crit/Det VIT accessories in previous tiers
    Learn to read please. I said they have it, just not as much as Slaying and some fending accesories have Parry which replace some of the damage stats, thus, in the case scenario VIT and STR become equals, most tanks will still preffer slaying over fending and at best, they will mix them up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Fending won`t win in that situtation. Because slaying gear also grants skill speed, determination and critical, where Fending gives much lower skill speed and near no determination which is usually the stat replaced by parry. So if STR and VIT will both weight the same, at best, you will find tanks running a mix of slaying/fending accesories to max damage stats, like using just the fending acc without parry + slaying.
    1 point of base stat give muche more vs a 1 point of secndary stat, and you talking like fending don have any det crit and skill speed, whe have 2 set to play and meaby because fending can have parry whe have a little less det or crit or something, i make 2 sets in ariyala

    str DRK http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SBGL
    vit DRK http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SJ0Q

    as you can see whe have 75 point more or less of diference (i dont change the extra points so are in both in vit) and a not big dierence betwen secondaries stats, so 75 points of vit in this actual pacth, more high in 3.2 are mandatory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    1 point of base stat give muche more vs a 1 point of secndary stat, and you talking like fending don have any det crit and skill speed, whe have 2 set to play and meaby because fending can have parry whe have a little less det or crit or something, i make 2 sets in ariyala

    str DRK http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SBGL
    vit DRK http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SJ0Q

    as you can see whe have 75 point more or less of diference (i dont change the extra points so are in both in vit) and a not big dierence betwen secondaries stats, so 75 points of vit in this actual pacth, more high in 3.2 are mandatory.
    Slaying still has the upper hand if VIT and STR are equals. Unless parry will also increase DPS now, magically.
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    I don't mind the change but at the same time its pretty much narrowed down to "Those extra points you get every few levels, you only have ONE option" Which just makes me wonder, why have us bother at all?
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    Say goodbye to tank stance because I will never use it again.
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    From my understanding, STR won't give a bonus and VIT will right? If that is the case, a Slaying Accessory will provide much less benefit, even with the CRIT/DET etc, as the main stat is significantly more important.

    If STR and VIT are made equal, then nvm I guess, but that'd be silly and encourage pentamelds even moreso than now.
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