Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
Comparing the changing of scholar fairy pets to being similar to the sects for the astro is not even remotely plausible to compare the two together. Pre knowledge of the fight to swift cast to use the aoe regen does not really use resources that negate from a scholars healing. You can cast the haste buff and swap to whispering wind and back again before the cooldown resets. Just requires knowledge of the fight to maximize its use..

And if you are doing a 4 man dungeon changing stances is sort of pointless as I do not know any dungeons that would make great use of nocturnal shields+duirnal hots rolling and in 8 man content for now a scholar will always have a raid spot. The best thing for the astro at this point is probably forget about having the shields that are in the realm of the scholar and find a new unique mechanic for nocturnal stance. I really feel it is prime to be a offensive stance with no healing potency loss like cleric stance that provides mana reduction costs to damage spells and maybe even heal like disc priest damage to heal a target with a buff applied to it.
Or people could stop complaining about it and face the fact that optimal job combos exist in MMOs and that Nocturnal is currently an optimal PvP Stance and a sub-optimal raid Stance. Also, face the fact that both AST and WHM are a sub-optimal off healer, and SCH is a sub-optimal main healer.

Or even better: people could stop pretending to be game designers suggesting lots of complicated ideas that are harder to program and won't solve a thing. The simple "fix" is take the restriction off and allow AST to change Sects. If that doesn't happen, that's ok too, because AST is viable in any Sect.

You're beating a dead horse suggesting a complete rework for something that works - people have cleared A4S as Noct AST, which proves that it is viable, that it's just sub-optimal, and honestly that's far from an actual problem. SE won't remake a job based on this kind of community complaint because it's too much work for little to no pay off, since only a small percentage of the players actually do this kind of content with the competitive mind set that transforms a sub-optimal decision into an actual problem.
A2S was cleared week one with a Noct. AST/SCH combo (just look for the video on youtube), which is arguably the worst combo possible. I'll say it again: week 1. Diurnal AST/WHM also cleared things week 1 (A1S at least), so no problem there either. And that's before AST got buffed (or un-nerfed, if you guys will). People did the content with the worst combo and with AST in the worst state ever.
To be honest, most people can't clear A3S from not doing mechanics like Digititis properly, so Nocturnal Sect shields or even DPS is far from being a problem - it's just a scapegoat to cover up other issues. Sub-optimal choices are only a problem at the moment because average players are trying to do hard content.
This will probably be fixed with the Midas new design, since SE already admitted they screwed Gordias up. So, again, you guys are overreacting about Nocturnal. I get that some people absolutely want to feel OP or optimal at all times, but let's put that aside and face the fact that if you're not able to do it with any combo at this point, it's on you, not the job.