Never Make Your Players Have to "Find the Fun"

[DragonFlyy]

This game feels like a bloody chore to me, and that is why I haven't done anything worthwhile in game for quite a long time. But hey, I'm just one player. Take it for what you want.

When the game feels like this, it is no longer a game for you. Take a break, either temporarily or permanently.

On one issue, the gating of things, if there was no gates on it then you would be here asking why there is nothing to do since you did it all and the devs can't keep up. I hate time gated material, but I understand it's need. It will either be time gated, or major grind (no relic is not a major grind. Check original Everquest hell levels and epic quests. Took my cousin something like 6 months to get his monk epic ... most of which was waiting for a single mob to spawn.)

[Kallera]

When the game feels like this, it is no longer a game for you. Take a break, either temporarily or permanently.

On one issue, the gating of things, if there was no gates on it then you would be here asking why there is nothing to do since you did it all and the devs can't keep up. I hate time gated material, but I understand it's need. It will either be time gated, or major grind (no relic is not a major grind. Check original Everquest hell levels and epic quests. Took my cousin something like 6 months to get his monk epic ... most of which was waiting for a single mob to spawn.)

Not everyone who complains about gates is a content locust that will do everything instantly without them. I have certainly had my share of not capping tomes and I also get annoyed at the fact that I cannot get them when I am interested in farming them as much as I want to.

And why is it that the thing that made MMO such a niche genre somehow seen as good because they "are not as bad" as they were previously? Things that make the game not as fun to play are not features.

[Archaell]

Not everyone who complains about gates is a content locust that will do everything instantly without them. I have certainly had my share of not capping tomes and I also get annoyed at the fact that I cannot get them when I am interested in farming them as much as I want to.

And why is it that the thing that made MMO such a niche genre somehow seen as good because they "are not as bad" as they were previously? Things that make the game not as fun to play are not features.

This is definitely annoying. I spent last month leveling an alt character on the Balmung and I had so much fun doing it that I totally neglected all the weekly caps on my main character. Now I am suffering the penalty for playing the game to have fun...

Funny story, I am also weekly capped on the both characters atm. The weekly limit is so low that not even two characters are able to fill the whole week. Maybe I should start the third one! /jk