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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    It's not the case now, but there are some distinct advantages excllusive to BRD that MCH doesn't have, which gives them an edge in progression (not to mention that they scale better from stats than MCH too, esp crit)
    Hmm, that doesn't sound good. Is MCH at least a fun class to play as? It must have some reason to play it haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nirurin View Post
    Hmm, that doesn't sound good. Is MCH at least a fun class to play as? It must have some reason to play it haha
    Fun is subjective. I personally prefer it over BRD, but that's only because I can't stand WM on BRD. I'd say give it a shot at least. Once you get to lvl 54 you more or less have the full rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Fun is subjective. I personally prefer it over BRD, but that's only because I can't stand WM on BRD. I'd say give it a shot at least. Once you get to lvl 54 you more or less have the full rotation.
    Ahuhuhuhuhu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    Ahuhuhuhuhu.
    Armageddon outta here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Armageddon outta here.
    Get out, you're bard
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Fun is subjective. I personally prefer it over BRD, but that's only because I can't stand WM on BRD. I'd say give it a shot at least. Once you get to lvl 54 you more or less have the full rotation.
    I though gauss barrel was effectively the same as WM? Is there a difference that makes it less annoying?

    While I'm asking a question, heres another - Which is better at AoE? I've read two conflicting threads, one says MCH and the other says BRD. Though I think the MCH one also added in crowd control to mch as being a big plus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nirurin View Post
    I though gauss barrel was effectively the same as WM? Is there a difference that makes it less annoying?

    While I'm asking a question, heres another - Which is better at AoE? I've read two conflicting threads, one says MCH and the other says BRD. Though I think the MCH one also added in crowd control to mch as being a big plus.
    They're both functionally the same, but BRD has river of blood which resets their oGCD cooldowns. MCH is also more reliant on procs which give them instant casts on specific weaponskills, so they're roughly closer to 2.0 BRD's gameplay. BRD has a proc as well that gives them instant cast, but it's not as prominent. To me, it's more on "GB messes up less things on MCH than it does on BRD"

    I'd say BRD's AoE is infinitely better due to multi-dotting for multiple RoDs. Bishop is nice and all, but it's only 60 potency that's unaffected by gauss barrel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    They're both functionally the same, but BRD has river of blood which resets their oGCD cooldowns. MCH is also more reliant on procs which give them instant casts on specific weaponskills, so they're roughly closer to 2.0 BRD's gameplay. BRD has a proc as well that gives them instant cast, but it's not as prominent. To me, it's more on "GB messes up less things on MCH than it does on BRD"

    I'd say BRD's AoE is infinitely better due to multi-dotting for multiple RoDs. Bishop is nice and all, but it's only 60 potency that's unaffected by gauss barrel.
    Is bishop the best AoE mch has? What about spread shot and grenade shot? Or are they just rubbish compared to bard?

    Not that it's a big deal, mostly single target damage is the way to go, I was just curious. Trying to learn things ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nirurin View Post
    Is bishop the best AoE mch has? What about spread shot and grenade shot? Or are they just rubbish compared to bard?

    Not that it's a big deal, mostly single target damage is the way to go, I was just curious. Trying to learn things ^^
    They're not mutally exclusive. You have spread shot and grenado, but that mirrors what bard has (quick notch and wide volley) down to the potency, so I'm mostly referencing what's exclusive to the respective jobs. (bishop turret vs rain of death potential)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    They're not mutally exclusive. You have spread shot and grenado, but that mirrors what bard has (quick notch and wide volley) down to the potency, so I'm mostly referencing what's exclusive to the respective jobs. (bishop turret vs rain of death potential)
    Also ricochet I guess for MCH, but thats only once a minute so probably doesn't help a big deal except with an opening burst
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