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    Uberhaxed: Thats not beeing part of any problem its a solution to help EVERYONE enjoy content. Its making sure that everyone can enjoy content by showing how people from multiple hunt linkshells can work together.
    I'm sorry that you feel that you and your selfish group of 7 others should solo stuff themselves without calling out an S-Rank. Its this gaming mentality that needs to be erased from this game! Let me guess you must have come from WoW to this and still refer to an FC as a guild? You are probably a non legacy server aswell wich pretty much preaches this incredibly toxic gaming envoirment where everything circulates around the individual instead of US/TEAM.
    Regardless of what I think of Yoshi P he put most of these things so we can work together as a server to treat your fellow player as part of the community and envoirment not this strange competition you feel would ruin the game.
    My suggestion will uplift it. It will give players with crazy loading times on consoles to be able to do an S-Rank or someone who feels that they where not good enough to actually feel they could shout for an invite and get it and be able to do the S rank and get the acheivement and seals. What do I know huh? Caring for other players without asking for anything in return that are less fortunate than you as a gamer seems to bother you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FizzleofHyperion View Post
    Uberhaxed: Thats not beeing part of any problem its a solution to help EVERYONE enjoy content. Its making sure that everyone can enjoy content by showing how people from multiple hunt linkshells can work together.
    I'm sorry that you feel that you and your selfish group of 7 others should solo stuff themselves without calling out an S-Rank. Its this gaming mentality that needs to be erased from this game! Let me guess you must have come from WoW to this and still refer to an FC as a guild? You are probably a non legacy server aswell wich pretty much preaches this incredibly toxic gaming envoirment where everything circulates around the individual instead of US/TEAM.
    Regardless of what I think of Yoshi P he put most of these things so we can work together as a server to treat your fellow player as part of the community and envoirment not this strange competition you feel would ruin the game.
    My suggestion will uplift it. It will give players with crazy loading times on consoles to be able to do an S-Rank or someone who feels that they where not good enough to actually feel they could shout for an invite and get it and be able to do the S rank and get the acheivement and seals. What do I know huh? Caring for other players without asking for anything in return that are less fortunate than you as a gamer seems to bother you?
    The problem with hunts is they are broken encounters with no actual gameplay. Might as well have a vending machine that hands out rewards. As content they are only popular because of the rewards involved rather than the actual gameplay.

    Your hardly being diplomatic and community minded with what is a rather condescending post by the way.

    Still, I don't think an immunity will solve the problem much. The issue there is usually with hunts they are found a while after they have spawned anyway so their immunity will probably have run out before it serves it's intended purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    The problem with hunts is they are broken encounters with no actual gameplay. Might as well have a vending machine that hands out rewards. As content they are only popular because of the rewards involved rather than the actual gameplay.

    Your hardly being diplomatic and community minded with what is a rather condescending post by the way.

    Still, I don't think an immunity will solve the problem much. The issue there is usually with hunts they are found a while after they have spawned anyway so their immunity will probably have run out before it serves it's intended purpose.
    Hunts are more or less a lost cause under the current battle system. The rush of players is such that no monster attack will sufficiently hit enough players. Its literally just a pinata fight.

    And I'm not sure about raid craftable gear. Given how things are going so far, I'd probably think they'll require almost just as much time doing crafting as raiding to even approach. and behind scrips....

    I really hate scrips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FizzleofHyperion View Post
    Uberhaxed: Thats not beeing part of any problem its a solution to help EVERYONE enjoy content. Its making sure that everyone can enjoy content by showing how people from multiple hunt linkshells can work together.
    I'm sorry that you feel that you and your selfish group of 7 others should solo stuff themselves without calling out an S-Rank. Its this gaming mentality that needs to be erased from this game! Let me guess you must have come from WoW to this and still refer to an FC as a guild? You are probably a non legacy server aswell wich pretty much preaches this incredibly toxic gaming envoirment where everything circulates around the individual instead of US/TEAM.
    Regardless of what I think of Yoshi P he put most of these things so we can work together as a server to treat your fellow player as part of the community and envoirment not this strange competition you feel would ruin the game.
    My suggestion will uplift it. It will give players with crazy loading times on consoles to be able to do an S-Rank or someone who feels that they where not good enough to actually feel they could shout for an invite and get it and be able to do the S rank and get the acheivement and seals. What do I know huh? Caring for other players without asking for anything in return that are less fortunate than you as a gamer seems to bother you?
    Whoosh!! That's the sound of the problem going over your head. Hunts are bad right now because the whole servers runs to the zone and uses 2 attacks and the mob dies. How is that enjoyable content? The content was supposed to be NM type content, but the "zerg" strategy has reduced everything to hit a couple of times and remove all mechanics, difficulty, and fun from the fight. When hunts were introduced, it was stated that the B ranks were supposed to give a challenge to (i.e. be challenged by) a single player. A ranks were supposed to be a challenge (i.e. be challenged by) a party. And S ranks were supposed to give a challenge to (i.e. be challenged by) and alliance. Instead the player based made it so that B ranks are attacked by the whole server (they alleviated this with reassignment of seals), A ranks are attacked by the whole server, and S ranks are attacked by the whole server. Completely destroying the fights because the open-world made it so that there is no limit to the number of players that can attack something. They were instead meant to be raid boss like fights, that you can call your friends to help you out. I don't understand the whole " to help EVERYONE enjoy content" when getting 2 attacks in is not enjoyable at all. Also I didn't play WoW and playing in 1.0 and thus started on a legacy server. Completely unlike you, who probably started this year in Heavensward, rather than 5 years ago when the game was completely different.
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    UBERHAXED: I tried searching and nowhere does it anything about how hunts where meant to be like you explained. Your description doesn't seem like it came out of SEs mouth. Sounds more like a theory you where listening to by Mr Happy. I'm a 1.0 player and I have my trampstamp to prove that I'm used to games beeing rewarding and competition wise. Since this game eliminated that feeling a long time to go I had to play differently since its pretty much teaching everyone should have everything. Hunts can be changed if SE would have wanted that but people are enjoying them eventhough its a mindless zerg buttonmash but so is almost everything else in this game. If hunts beeing zerged seem to bother you that much then try searching for servers that have the lowest population possible so you can solo your A rank with your chocobo and a buddy because you want a challenge.
    Hunts wont change if they wanted hunts to change HW would have changed that but they did not. If you want to call SE lazy go for it I guess but its not like you will quit the game over hunts LOL.
    Since you are saying you are a 1.0 player like the rest of us then you should know that 1.23 was when this game actually starting to get really good. It was unique it felt like it did not look like the rest and it was not a button mash zerg mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FizzleofHyperion View Post
    UBERHAXED: I tried searching and nowhere does it anything about how hunts where meant to be like you explained. Your description doesn't seem like it came out of SEs mouth.
    Hunts were basically designed to be like fates. just turn up and jump straight in. no special requirements or strategies, it was designed like this because they didn't want to exclude people.

    the whole design was built around turn up and whack stuff. they were never meant to be complex encounters or anything like that.

    hence why they never applied a closed claim system, they didn't want people to be excluded
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    Quote Originally Posted by FizzleofHyperion View Post
    UBERHAXED: I tried searching and nowhere does it anything about how hunts where meant to be like you explained. Your description doesn't seem like it came out of SEs mouth. Sounds more like a theory you where listening to by Mr Happy.
    Who? Is that a nickname for Yoshida? Because it says right here in the 2.28 live letter when they spoke about hunts.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...806-04-2014%29
    It took me all of 2 seconds to find this because...
    A: Yes. Just as I explained before, the ranks will not only show the strength of the marks, but also the difficulty of their spawning conditions. There will be a variety of enemies that you can solo with item level 90 gear, enemies you can defeat that require the aid of a companion, and enemies that will require a party to defeat. If you come across one of these more difficult marks, we hope you'll make use of the party finder or shout to enlist a few able-bodied adventurers to help.
    Right there from Yoshida's mouth recorded on the live letter. Still didn't find the alleged quote though where you're supposed to invite the whole server to wail on the B rank because "everyone wants to have fun" pressing their 2 buttons. You need to help me out with finding that one.
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